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Old 11-15-2006, 11:51 PM
CaptUnlucky CaptUnlucky is offline
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Default I\'m inexperienced in these situations, NL50 vs maniac

Villian is 55/27 over 60 hands, minraising and 2.5BB a lot preflop. Probably cbetting about 90% of the time, mostly just be hitting UB's pot button.

Preflop is this a fold? I had yet to see him reraise before the flop, and he's pretty crazy so I figured my IO were pretty good here.

I am lost on the flop.
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Hero: $52.75
Villain: $43.20

Hero UTG dealt J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Villian posts BB of $.50

Hero raises to $2, 4 folds, Villian reraises to $6.25, Hero calls $4.25

Flop: 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (~12.50)

Villian pushes for $36.95, Hero ???
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Old 11-15-2006, 11:59 PM
TKWest TKWest is offline
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Default Re: I\'m inexperienced in these situations, NL50 vs maniac

1.Switch tables

2. I dont like raising Pf with J9s with a maniac behind me.It is the kind of hand you might want to limp in with in late position after several limpers but not now.

3. The most satisfying way to beat these guys is to flop a great hand and let him do the betting until the turn or river and then take over. Doesnt allways happen so switch tables and find some passive opponents.
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Old 11-16-2006, 12:08 AM
CaptUnlucky CaptUnlucky is offline
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Default Re: I\'m inexperienced in these situations, NL50 vs maniac

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2. I dont like raising Pf with J9s with a maniac behind me.It is the kind of hand you might want to limp in with in late position after several limpers but not now.


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I suppose this is true. I guess I'm just very used to opening J9 at these tables that it seemed the right play at the time.
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Old 11-16-2006, 01:28 AM
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Default Re: I\'m inexperienced in these situations, NL50 vs maniac

how is it good to open J9 at any table?
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Old 11-16-2006, 02:18 AM
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Default Re: I\'m inexperienced in these situations, NL50 vs maniac

def fold preflop with a maniac behind you, this is really too read dependent to get good answers
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Old 11-16-2006, 02:51 AM
helloimcdog helloimcdog is offline
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Default Re: I\'m inexperienced in these situations, NL50 vs maniac

this happens so often its ridiculous, you have a maniac at a table and yet you wanna get it all in with TPNK, if youre going to be staying at this table just wait for a big hand to roll around and pick him off them, TPNK is not a big hand.
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Old 11-16-2006, 10:06 AM
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Default Re: I\'m inexperienced in these situations, NL50 vs maniac

I don’t understand these recommendations about switching tables. Never switch tables if you manage to find a player who is willing to give all of his money to you. I’m looking for these maniacs when I’m playing. Of course passive players are easy to play against, but these maniacs are more profitable. Playing against maniacs probably increases your variance, but why should that matter if you have adequate bankroll.


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2. I dont like raising Pf with J9s with a maniac behind me.It is the kind of hand you might want to limp in with in late position after several limpers but not now.


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I suppose this is true. I guess I'm just very used to opening J9 at these tables that it seemed the right play at the time.

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This is probably the worst excuse I ever heard, when someone is playing bad hand from UTG. Try to get used to fold this hand from EP and MP unless you are playing at the most passive table ever. This is a perfect example why you shouldn’t play these hands especially when there’s a maniac in your table. You hit the flop well and yet you don’t know what to do.
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Old 11-16-2006, 12:13 AM
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Default Re: I\'m inexperienced in these situations, NL50 vs maniac

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1.Switch tables


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Or at least sit to his left so you have position. If you plan on sitting to his right, then play passively and let him do the betting for you.
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Old 11-16-2006, 10:35 AM
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Default Re: I\'m inexperienced in these situations, NL50 vs maniac

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With a maniac at your table?! I mean, what the hell? This is exactly the guy who you WANT to be playing with. If you can switch seat to his right, then please do so, but DO NOT LEAVE THE TABLE, these guys are an absolute goldmine. Just start taking your average hands to the felt against him and you'll earn tons of money from him. Just say hello to variance and get ready for a bumpy ride though.
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Old 11-16-2006, 03:58 PM
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Default Re: I\'m inexperienced in these situations, NL50 vs maniac

Am I missing something here? You want villain to YOUR right, and tight players to your left. If he's to your right he only has position on you when he's the button and you're the sb.

I'm pretty aggressive and see alot of flops. Theres nothing worse then calling a raise with 67s just to get reraised with maniacs ATo, then missing a flop you'd hit hard. If I have a maniac directly on my left, I leave the table.
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