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Old 05-25-2007, 08:30 PM
holy32 holy32 is offline
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Default $11: KK OTB

BB is a very loose/passive donk. Hasn't been pwning the bubble, has just been rediculously loose all sng long.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t200/t400
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t3080
Button: t2470
Hero: t6020
BB: t8430

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, Hero ???

Push or raise for value ?
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Old 05-25-2007, 08:33 PM
Kevin8423 Kevin8423 is offline
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Default Re: $11: KK OTB

On second thought, you don't risk that much by raising and having him call, you could possibly gain enough chips through raising and getting a call that you could become the big stack and own the bubble. Raising is better than shoving.
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Old 05-25-2007, 08:50 PM
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Default Re: $11: KK OTB

I would raise
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Old 05-26-2007, 11:08 AM
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Default Re: $11: KK OTB

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On second thought, you don't risk that much by raising and having him call, you could possibly gain enough chips through raising and getting a call that you could become the big stack and own the bubble. Raising is better than shoving.

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As I was reading the OP I was thinking "meh - eithers fine"
After reading this I can see real value in raising say 1600.

If he shoves back call of course
IF he folds then no big deal.
If he calls you can shove just about any flop without a ace.

In the last scenario if he folds your flop shove then you have massive pwning potential with as the b/s. (the main advantage being of course you can get all the chips in on a future hand, lose and still be ok)

Being second big stack with the b/s on your left is awkward.
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Old 05-26-2007, 11:46 AM
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Default Re: $11: KK OTB

Yeah, I basically played the hand like that... Sucks when he calls the shove with the naked Ad and hits tho... : /
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Old 05-26-2007, 11:52 AM
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Yeah, I basically played the hand like that... Sucks when he calls the shove with the naked Ad and hits tho... : /

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Sick - follow the bad beat proceedure

"gg nh" in the chat box
"donk callstation" in his notes box.
Put him on your "ATM" list of players to look for when registering.
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Old 05-26-2007, 06:05 PM
Jimmy James Jimmy James is offline
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Default Re: $11: KK OTB

dont slow play KK here. standard raise.
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Old 05-25-2007, 09:04 PM
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Default Re: $11: KK OTB

I'd put in a standard raise.
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Old 05-25-2007, 09:31 PM
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Default Re: $11: KK OTB

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t1200</font>, BB calls t800 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1400)</font>.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t2400, 2 players)
Hero ???
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Old 05-25-2007, 09:37 PM
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Default Re: $11: KK OTB

bet 2000, call a shove.
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