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05-13-2007, 05:05 PM
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the river donk
live 30
villain here i have never seen before. it should be noted that he wears his sunglasses on his head, but he pulls them down into the battle position when in a hand. this likely is affecting my play, because all i can think about when looking at him is dismembering him. he raises UTG, folds to me in LP and I 3bet A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], massive jackass in the BB calls, UTG calls. 3 to the flop of J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] checks to me, i bet, they both calls. turn:2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] check, check, i bet, bb folds, UTG calls. river: 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG now donks, I......... 
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#4
05-13-2007, 05:46 PM
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Re: the river donk
he has something that beats you ... like all of the time
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05-13-2007, 05:52 PM
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Re: the river donk
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he has something that beats you ... like all of the time [/ QUOTE ] I think the point Bob is making is that a lot of the time, this "hand that beats us" is a weak pair that will fold to a raise often enough for Bob's 2BB bluff investment to be profitable. I don't know if I agree, but he might play a flush draw faster than he did, so there's an argument to be made that villain is weak on this river. Of course, the straight draw came in too. So I would probably fold -- but I think at least *considering* a raise is correct, especially if battle position shades dude is the type to checkraise rivers when he hits his hand (as most pricks like this are).
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#6
05-13-2007, 05:59 PM
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Re: the river donk
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[ QUOTE ] he has something that beats you ... like all of the time [/ QUOTE ] I think the point Bob is making is that a lot of the time, this "hand that beats us" is a weak pair that will fold to a raise often enough for Bob's 2BB bluff investment to be profitable. [/ QUOTE ] bingo
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#7
05-13-2007, 07:43 PM
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Re: the river donk
I make the call and see what he has.
TSP
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#8
05-14-2007, 11:36 AM
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Re: the river donk
I usually find the river donk by bad players to me a made-draw or a busted draw. E.g. last time I played, UTG donkey raised J10s. I 3 bet AK, K9x on the flop. UTG checked/called bets on flop and turn. Sudddenly he donks river. He had a gutshot which he missed.
Unfortunately, here, ever draw in creation was completed on the rivrr unless maybe he had KQ. So you gots to fold imo.
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#10
05-14-2007, 01:30 PM
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Re: the river donk
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how is this anything but a fold? [/ QUOTE ] Did you read the thread?
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