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Turned nuts - C/C on river best option?
$4.40/180
Villian in BB has repeatedly shown to be very loose (called one 24xBB All-in w/ J5o) Button also has been loose, but not as much so as the BB. PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Button (t4037) Hero (t2378) BB (t5659) UTG (t3250) UTG+1 (t1240) MP1 (t1570) MP2 (t1315) MP3 (t2880) CO (t1156) Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls t100, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls t100, Hero completes, BB checks. Flop: (t400) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> Hero checks, BB checks, MP2 checks, Button checks. Turn: (t400) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t400 <font color="brown">(IS THIS GOOD SIZE?) </font> </font>, BB calls t400, MP2 folds, Button calls t400. River: (t1600) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero check/calls? |
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Re: Turned nuts - C/C on river best option?
fold pf
shove river |
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Re: Turned nuts - C/C on river best option?
pf isn't in question, and i can't even tell if that's serious advice or not
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Re: Turned nuts - C/C on river best option?
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pf isn't in question, and i can't even tell if that's serious advice or not [/ QUOTE ] i think 89o w/ 24BBs OOP is -EV to play, so i'm giving you that advice lol, shove > c/c > c/f imo .. i guess you can give me reasons why you think i'd be joking though and i'd do my best to explain it to you |
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Re: Turned nuts - C/C on river best option?
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[ QUOTE ] pf isn't in question, and i can't even tell if that's serious advice or not [/ QUOTE ] i think 89o w/ 24BBs OOP is -EV to play, so i'm giving you that advice lol, shove > c/c > c/f imo .. i guess you can give me reasons why you think i'd be joking though and i'd do my best to explain it to you [/ QUOTE ] it's not b/c your advice was so ridiculous i thought you were joking, its just that when ppl DO joke on these forums they say just what you said. and you didnt give an explanation so i wasn't sure. lol |
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Re: Turned nuts - C/C on river best option?
btw, i know that completing bets is not smart, but my logic (possibly flawed) was that loose players will pay off more than others if i could make a good hand, thus increasing my implied odds.
that used to be a huge leak of mine, now it's more under ocntrol although i still make justifications (like the one above) to do it sometimes |
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Re: Turned nuts - C/C on river best option?
I'm a little curious why Early thinks that shoving the river is the best line.
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Re: Turned nuts - C/C on river best option?
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I'm a little curious why Early thinks that shoving the river is the best line. [/ QUOTE ] because i think it's way more likely for someone to call a shove with a worse hand than it is for someone to bet it..since we're not going to c/f, i think the range of hands that villains will bet the river with is made up primarily of flushes, while they'll check a hand like QJ or KJ behind a pretty significant amount of time the only hand that i could see bluffing the river here is QK, but i think they'll be pretty timid to bluff this river, a lot of villains will call a shove here with a Jack, and none of them are gonna fold 2pr+ -- although they might not always bet 2pr+ |
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Re: Turned nuts - C/C on river best option?
I think he's serious. A leak of a lot of players is completing from the SB/calling raises from the BB because of the discount. You end up in a pretty big pot OOP. However, that's not your question.
With two people calling your pot on the turn--I would bet less, but not much less, like 300-350--I think that planning to c/c is prudent. You could also b/f. |
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Re: Turned nuts - C/C on river best option?
Fold PF.
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