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Old 10-21-2007, 06:38 PM
Mark_K Mark_K is offline
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Default $11 Sunday 100K on the bubble

This is today's 100K...

It's about 5 min's until the first bubble breaks. (Pays $17.69) I can easily fold into the money.


I would rate UTG as an average player, average level of aggressiveness.

How should I play this?

Poker Stars, $10 + $1 NL Hold'em Tournament, 500/1,000 Blinds, 9 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: 9,400
UTG: 14,273
UTG+1: 9,332
Hero (UTG+2): 12,550
MP1: 14,930
MP2: 16,230
CO: 6,515
BTN: 17,630
SB: 17,290

Pre-Flop: (2,400) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG+2)
<font color="red">UTG raises to 4,000</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="red">Hero ?</font>
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Old 10-21-2007, 06:44 PM
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Default Re: $11 Sunday 100K on the bubble

Push? Woudn't AA or KK raise a bit less?
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Old 10-21-2007, 06:44 PM
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Default Re: $11 Sunday 100K on the bubble

any play but pushing or calling then calling any bet on any flop is horrible
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Old 10-21-2007, 06:56 PM
Pokerfarian Pokerfarian is offline
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Default Re: $11 Sunday 100K on the bubble

Screw folding into the money. Folding into the money is atrogeus. Folding QQ is awful. Folding passively before the bubble is crap. Being scared to bubble in MTTs is horrid. /rant. Shove.
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Old 10-21-2007, 07:21 PM
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Default Re: $11 Sunday 100K on the bubble

OK here are some more thoughts...

Since UTG is raising, I have to believe this is a premimum hand (JJ+, AQ+). I don't believe they have AA because they'll raise less hoping to get more than just the blinds.
And QQ isn't likely because I have two...

So that leaves AQ, AK, KK and JJ... I dominate AQ and JJ, the AK's are a flip, and UTG dominates me with KK

My "real" options are Push and Call.

If I push, more than half the time I am flipping or being dominated.

If I call, I can play a flop in position... (and hope it doesn't come down AKJ - LOL)
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Old 10-21-2007, 09:16 PM
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Default Re: $11 Sunday 100K on the bubble

calling's not an option either...you really think calling 1/3 of your chips and folding to a less than favourable flop is a good option?

you're short and it's an ridiculously easy push...this is the hundred grand...the average player in this tourney doesn't have a sense of position so his range for raising utg is the same as LP.

From the sounds of it you're trying to convince us that you should find a fold here because you lost a race or something...but no you can't, shove it all day.
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Old 10-22-2007, 02:41 AM
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Default Re: $11 Sunday 100K on the bubble

[ QUOTE ]
OK here are some more thoughts...

Since UTG is raising, I have to believe this is a premimum hand (JJ+, AQ+). I don't believe they have AA because they'll raise less hoping to get more than just the blinds.
And QQ isn't likely because I have two...

So that leaves AQ, AK, KK and JJ... I dominate AQ and JJ, the AK's are a flip, and UTG dominates me with KK

My "real" options are Push and Call.

If I push, more than half the time I am flipping or being dominated.

If I call, I can play a flop in position... (and hope it doesn't come down AKJ - LOL)

[/ QUOTE ]

UTG's raising range ON THE BUBBLE in a $11 tournament is MUCH wider than JJ+/AK. If it's close to the bubble and I have anything remotely close to a decent stack I'm raising a huge range stealing blinds from people like you [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

QQ is an absolute monster here - if you don't push, you are not maximizing your EV.


If cashing in a $10 for a $7 profit is a big deal to you - I would not play $10 tournaments.
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