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Old 09-06-2007, 12:08 AM
SA125 SA125 is offline
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Default River spot with 99

Played this hand over a month ago and been thinking about it a lot ever since. Specifically the river.

50-100 Folded to button who raises. He's an agro lag who plays loose but well. I call with 99. BB is same type as Bn and calls from the BB.

Flop QJx. I bet, BB calls, Bn raises, we both call.

Turn low brick no dr's. We ch, Bn bets, I c/r, BB tanks for a teeny bit then folds. Bn tanks for a good bit and then calls.

River low brick. I ch, Bn ch's.

Reason it's been on my mind is I planned on calling a river bet and I've been thinking about two poker mantra's. One is "if you're going to call you might as well bet" and the other "why bet if you won't be called by a worse hand?"

When he called after tanking on the turn, I thought I might be beat. His image of me is tight, but he's seen me make moves.

Comments on the river appreciated. I'll post the results seperately with this post.

FWIW - Those that might think it's a big deal I didn't 3 bet pf, sometimes I do but this time I didn't. Nolo contendre. I don't disagree, but think the river can be discussed here based on the line taken.
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Old 09-06-2007, 12:12 AM
The Funky Llama The Funky Llama is offline
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Default Re: River spot with 99

wow, your preflop, flop, and turn play seem obscenely bad.
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Old 09-06-2007, 12:17 AM
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Default Results

He had AK and MHWG. BB was surprised and said he folded TT.

Been thinking about it because TT is the only worse hand I see Bn calling the river with. And even that is at best 50-50. I think he'd call with a an AJ type hand. So I don't see much sense in betting it.

But the fact that I would've called it has been eating at me. Because I'd say the chance of it being a bluff was 5-10% at best.

I should probably know it, but anyone know what the math is with that?
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Old 09-06-2007, 12:20 AM
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Default Re: Results

3 bet preflop, checkfold flop, checkfold turn, otherwise v. well played.

Is this post a joke?
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Old 09-06-2007, 12:36 AM
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Default Re: Results

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3 bet preflop, checkfold flop, checkfold turn, otherwise v. well played.

Is this post a joke?

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Love the guys who think 3 betting pf here makes a world of difference in the long run.

Check/fold the flop. LOL. Talk about weak tight.
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Old 09-06-2007, 12:41 AM
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Default Re: Results

3 betting pre is much much better than calling. It's really not close.
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Old 09-06-2007, 12:57 AM
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3 betting pre is much much better than calling. It's really not close.

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Dean, as I said in the OP about it, nolo contendre. It really makes no difference to me and making issue of it is wasting both our time. Look at the hand as played.

Give him AK like he had, or KT, which I know he'd raise the flop with. I like the turn c/r because it's charging him to draw. The river is then the question though. Any thoughts on it with that line?

FWIW - I think the turn c/r was a strong play. Weak passive players don't do that.
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Old 09-11-2007, 02:08 AM
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Default Re: Results

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3 betting pre is much much better than calling. It's really not close.

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Well FWIW I CC a BTN raise in the SB yesterday w88.

It was a misclick and I swore afterwards...

JT
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Old 09-06-2007, 02:09 AM
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Default Re: River spot with 99

what's really strange is that all the sa125 posts I can remember (at least in recent history) involve weird FPS on 3/4 streets and then he asks for advice on the 4th street. and yet he continues to play 50/100 on a regular basis. Somebody tell me what I'm missing...posting bias?
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Old 09-06-2007, 02:41 AM
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i, for one, bow to your poker greatness sa125. imo, the mere mortals responding in this thread dont even deserve for you to reveal a hand of such blinding beauty and eloquence.
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