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Old 03-27-2007, 08:11 AM
maddis maddis is offline
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Default 22$ KQ bubble play

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

Hero (t2270)
Button (t4070)
SB (t5060)
BB (t2100)

Preflop: Hero is in CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="red">Hero raises to t450</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to t2100 (All-in)</font>, Hero calls t1650

Flop: (t4500) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)


Turn: (t4500) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)


River: (t4500) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

what do you think of my play? is it wrong to raise KQ here? or would you lay it down to that reraise?
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Old 03-27-2007, 08:15 AM
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Default Re: 22$ KQ bubble play

Shove PF.

as played fold.
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Old 03-27-2007, 08:18 AM
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Default Re: 22$ KQ bubble play

Are there antes already? You only have 11 big blinds so raising is definitely not an option here. Push or fold, I'm leaning towards pushing.

Would be interesting to see what does SNGPT say. Anyone?
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Old 03-27-2007, 08:19 AM
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Default Re: 22$ KQ bubble play

pocket bear: how many big blinds do I need to have raising as an option? 15?
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Old 03-27-2007, 08:23 AM
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Default Re: 22$ KQ bubble play

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pocket bear: how many big blinds do I need to have raising as an option? 15?

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Yup, something around that. The more is better though [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 03-27-2007, 08:29 AM
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Default Re: 22$ KQ bubble play

KQ has too much risk too little reward to shove here given the stacks. Fold. I'm nearly 100% positive it's a fold according to SNG-PT. Probably shoving 99+ AJs+, maybe TT+ AQ+. Pretty tight range.
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Old 03-27-2007, 08:48 AM
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Default Re: 22$ KQ bubble play

thanks excapeplan9. 1 last question: can i read somewhere more about detailed SNG-PT or is my only possibility to get better hanging out in this forum, reading posts and asking questions?
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Old 03-27-2007, 10:34 AM
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Default Re: 22$ KQ bubble play

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Are there antes already? You only have 11 big blinds so raising is definitely not an option here. Push or fold, I'm leaning towards pushing.

Would be interesting to see what does SNGPT say. Anyone?

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wizard makes pushing -.83. It's a clear fold on paper. push range is very tight.
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Old 03-27-2007, 10:56 AM
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Default Re: 22$ KQ bubble play

I fold, push from button or SB. It's close.
I definitely don't raise here to 450. Last thing I want is button calling with his big stack and/or being pushed off my hand.
What are your push ranges here guys? 77+; AJo?
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Old 03-27-2007, 01:53 PM
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wizard makes pushing -.83. It's a clear fold on paper. push range is very tight.

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On what ranges are you putting rest of the table then?

SNGPT says it's +.1% if both bigstacks are calling with {44+,A7s+,A9o+,KJs+}, and the BB is calling with {88+,AQs+,AKo}. However, BB is calling much tighter here, because he still has 10bb if folded, so he's proly calling here with {TT+,AK}, which makes it a +.2% EV push.

Note, that calculations was made with antes (like I presumed in my first post). If no antes yet, it's a fold then...
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