QJs early in $530 PLHE

zizazziza · #1 09-23-2007, 01:32 AM

Villian sat down like 10min ago and has been very aggressive and i dont think he is very good. He also has a crapload of chips this early usually means hes a donkey. I know not necessarily, but probably. I called pf because I thought that with position that this is a good chance to take some of the dead money in this mtt. I just wanted to make sure that I played this correctly. And if I did, is this a good place to gamble?

Poker Stars
Pot Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t50/t100
9 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: t8211
UTG+1: t935
MP1: t19150
MP2: t1845
MP3: t622
CO: t3050
zizazziza: t6365
SB: t8745
BB: t4180

Pre-flop: (9 players) zizazziza is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, MP1 raises to t350, 3 folds, zizazziza calls t350 (pot was t500), 2 folds.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t850, 2 players)
MP1 bets t850, zizazziza raises to t3400, MP1 raises to t5950, zizazziza raises all-in t6015, MP1 calls t65 (pot was t12815).

eBo · #2 09-23-2007, 01:59 AM

eh, the flop is fine. I wouldn't raise so much. Once he 3bets, you're committed.

PF, fold > raise > call

ZJ123 · #3 09-23-2007, 02:36 AM

preflop is fine, i prolly wouldnt raise here, he bet the full pot, i prolly flat the flop

Eagles · #4 09-23-2007, 02:45 AM

Pf is fine. On the flop I call or fold that full pot bet means hes never folding.

Bond18 · #5 09-23-2007, 03:37 AM

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Pf is fine. On the flop I call or fold that full pot bet means hes never folding.

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Agreed. I likely just call once. Your likely a very slight dog against his range if you factor in that he he has a spade with his pair 50% of the time and when he's got JJ+ he cuts down your outs a lot. That pot bet is always a hand and almost never folding.

TheNewf · #6 09-23-2007, 03:42 AM

I don't think preflop is fine. Call the flop for sure though.

betgo · #7 09-23-2007, 01:25 PM

I think this is all standard. Preflop, you could also fold, and you could even 3-bet, but the call with position is fine.

I think you have to semibluff on the flop. I wouldn't assume the pot bet means he isn't folding. This could easily be whiffed high cards trying to make it look like an overpair. A cbet size bet on this flop rarely works. Also, a lot of people bet pot. You see that on sites with bet pot buttons in NLHE.

Also, what are you afraid he has. I set isn't going to bet that way on this board, and a big pair usually won't.

You are even versus an overpair to the board and underpair to your cards, and not in terrible shape against AA-JJ.

djk123 · #8 09-23-2007, 02:27 PM

i think preflop is okay and i def repot flop and get it in regardless of whether i think hes folding or not