NL1000 flopped flush

[$upermad4it]

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $5/$10 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $256.00
BB: $2,280.25
Hero (UTG): $1,420.00
MP: $812.00
CO: $995.00
BTN: $1,082.88

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $40.00</font>, MP folds, CO calls $40.00, BTN folds, SB calls $35.00, BB folds

Flop: ($130) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $90.00</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $300.00</font>, SB folds, Hero ?

Villain is gamboool1 playing 19/15/3.2. Whats the best plan here normally - get it in now or CR turn?

[Melchiades]

Well, he isn't semibluffing with a a big club. Suggests he has something. I'd get it in now.

[Albert Moulton]

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Well, he isn't semibluffing with a a big club. Suggests he has something. I'd get it in now.

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I agree. He either has air (or something pretty close), or he has a set. He might even have an OESFD. If he has air, then you probably aren't getting more out of him on later streets. If he has a set or OESFD, then you might very well get his stack in now. So, raise. It will be funniest if he's got the OESFD.

[stackingboxes]

ye, ez push

[JFsports]

I'd shove too, it's the best way to get paid by a lower flush or a set. Another club destroys your action from both of those, and there aren't a lot of other hands he can have that it is worth slowplaying against

[Darkfolder]

Shooooooove.

[Albert Moulton]

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Well, he isn't semibluffing with a a big club. Suggests he has something. I'd get it in now.

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I agree. He either has air (or something pretty close), or he has a set. He might even have an OESFD. If he has air, then you probably aren't getting more out of him on later streets. If he has a set or OESFD, then you might very well get his stack in now. So, raise. It will be funniest if he's got the OESFD.

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Ok, so by "OESFD" I meant lower flush with 2-outs to a straight flush. I should have been more careful in my post. Anyway, it's still a push. A paired board might kill some of your action vs lower flushes (and you'll be worried about a full house). And another club might kill your actions vs a low flush as well as a set if the board doesn't pair. So get it in now.

[Nielsio]

Shove ldo

[AAismyfriend]

shove, not close, and he's not folding either.

[buddha01]

Disagree, if he has a queen high flush, queen ten/9? Then you are still going to get action especially if you check or bet small then check.

If I was playing this I would realise it to 600 (maybe), I would say he would call that at least 40/65 % of the time especially if he has a made flush as well, then he is getting close to being pot committed, you throw in a check from your side and he is going to feel decent.

Right?


You shove he is going to say to himself man I have "trips" or a queen/ 9 flush made on the flop and this guy has the nuts..

You have to string him a long a bit, it depends allot on previous action and how fast the game is going, you should know the move yourself, I take it you shoved and he folded well there you go, if you have the nuts what about giving the guy a chance to hang him self as well, he might go all in if you check the turn or check the flop, I like were your sitting your not afraid of any draw outs 0.005 percent or what ever for quads.


Sorry disagree. Shove is bad poker but I am a new player and I want to learn. I know you don’t shove the nuts with three suited cards down, its kind of bad play no? Shoving acts as a deterrent just as much as it acts as a money making move.

I am here to learn can some one explain to me why shoving is a good idea here or even why it is correctly a bad move.



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