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Old 10-22-2007, 07:20 AM
ASPoker8 ASPoker8 is offline
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Default $200NL - Hows My Line?

Villain is 16/5 over a lot of hands

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $199.20
Hero (SB): $200
BB: $151.85
UTG: $271
UTG+1: $96.25
UTG+2: $195.25
MP1: $306.50
MP2: $367.25
CO: $191

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
6 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $8</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $26</font>, BB folds, BTN calls $18

Flop: ($54) 2 A 2 (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($54) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $20</font>, Hero calls $20

River: ($94) K (2 Players)
Hero checks
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Old 10-22-2007, 07:55 AM
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Default Re: $200NL - Hows My Line?

I definitely bet this river, something like 50$ as I think there are a couple of A hands he would call with but check behind if checked to.
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Old 10-22-2007, 09:55 AM
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Default Re: $200NL - Hows My Line?

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Old 10-22-2007, 11:12 AM
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Default Re: $200NL - Hows My Line?

I bet/fold the flop, and I definitely bet this river.
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Old 10-22-2007, 11:21 AM
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Default Re: $200NL - Hows My Line?

Betting is alot better imo because he'll call with a wider range than he'll bet with
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Old 10-22-2007, 11:57 AM
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Default Re: $200NL - Hows My Line?

i bet/fold this flop almost always. this type of player just wont play back with qq or jj so you're not worried about getting bluff raised really. you can always check the turn and he will check it back with those hands also.

as played, you have to bet the river. he's not going to value-bet one pair here, especially with the flush hitting. just try to make a value bet and hope to get a call out of an ace.
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Old 10-23-2007, 06:26 AM
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Default Re: $200NL - Hows My Line?

I didn't read any replies yet....(so maybe a fresh opinion)

pf - you have to reraise obv...
-It could be read by villain as a resteal. even though he could be stealing with a wide range here, guys like this aren't calling reraises with much, so we can narrow his range

flop - given above and no history(you didn't speak of any) I would cbet and fold to a raise. As played, are you folding to a bet here? If you are willing to call say a half pot bet, you may as well be the one betting.

turn - If he calls my cbet, I'd probably check fold, maybe incorrectly but at this point he isn't folding aq, ak or a10, maybe aj but I don't want to try to make him. there is a small chance he has qq, jj and even smaller chance flush draw, ax or 2x......As played same as flop..if you are willing to call $20 why not bet $20 or so(half pot) as most if not any pairs are in his range

river - if he calls my cbet and I for what ever reason I decide to call a bet on the turn, the pot would be at least $100....I shove, he will have to call with most of what he got here with........as played, his small turn bet makes me think there is a good chance he will check behind unless he has 1010 or the flush, both of which are calling or raising a bet so I don't like a check raise here. bet $60-$65 and hope he either made a hand or bluffs.

my $.02
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Old 10-23-2007, 06:42 AM
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Default Re: $200NL - Hows My Line?

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flop - given above and no history(you didn't speak of any) I would cbet and fold to a raise. As played, are you folding to a bet here? If you are willing to call say a half pot bet, you may as well be the one betting.


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Why do people say this?

By betting, he folds every single worse hand and calls/raises every single better hand.

So I might as well be the one betting? Why. If I bet he will never bluff. If I bet and he decides to bluff, it will work.

Betting Axx flops with KK generally sucks.
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Old 10-23-2007, 06:54 AM
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Why do people say this?

By betting, he folds every single worse hand and calls/raises every single better hand.

So I might as well be the one betting? Why. If I bet he will never bluff. If I bet and he decides to bluff, it will work.

Betting Axx flops with KK generally sucks.


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because a player this tight will fold some hands that beat you. If you check here,you have given him hope that will carry him to the river that his Ax is good.
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Old 10-23-2007, 07:12 AM
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because a player this tight will fold some hands that beat you. If you check here,you have given him hope that will carry him to the river that his Ax is good.

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lol are you kidding me?
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