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QQ in the WSOP $650.
100 people left, 35 get seats. Average stack is about 15k. My table has been pretty tight and i have been opening a few hands, but really not that active. So far pretty much all my hands played have been me raising preflop and everyone folding.
Seat 1: centgas (11669 in chips) Seat 2: Suited-Hooks (29193 in chips) Seat 3: franko 4 (12840 in chips) Seat 4: TwistedEcho (10107 in chips) Seat 5: PacMann (11626 in chips) Seat 6: silvermvric (19335 in chips) Seat 7: clickandwin (19935 in chips) Seat 8: shaun69uk (26080 in chips) Seat 9: Gamecock1 (8557 in chips) centgas: posts the ante 25 Suited-Hooks: posts the ante 25 franko 4: posts the ante 25 TwistedEcho: posts the ante 25 PacMann: posts the ante 25 silvermvric: posts the ante 25 clickandwin: posts the ante 25 shaun69uk: posts the ante 25 Gamecock1: posts the ante 25 shaun69uk: posts small blind 200 Gamecock1: posts big blind 400 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to TwistedEcho [Qs Qd] centgas: folds Suited-Hooks: folds franko 4: folds TwistedEcho: raises 800 to 1200 PacMann: folds silvermvric: folds clickandwin: folds shaun69uk: raises 10000 to 11200 Gamecock1: (instantly)calls 8132 and is all-in TwistedEcho hates life, and? |
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Re: QQ in the WSOP $650.
I think we must call, probably close to 33% equity here, which is more than we need.
ie if one guys range is QQ+,AKs,AKo and the original allin guy is: KK-99,AQs+,AQo+ I dunno maybe its SLIGHTLY too loose for the first allin guy, but who knows. Either way we should be getting around the equity we need, despite it being quite unpleasant. |
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Re: QQ in the WSOP $650.
i call but hate myself, i think we def have the equity here like curtains is saying, with our stack we need to gather lots of chips to make it deeper and this is a spot i think we need to go with. If we had tons of chips i'd consider otherwise.
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Re: QQ in the WSOP $650.
Fold, I don't think its close
edit: KK is probably a fold also |
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Re: QQ in the WSOP $650.
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Fold, I don't think its close edit: KK is probably a fold also [/ QUOTE ] I don't understand how you could fold KK here. |
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Re: QQ in the WSOP $650.
Curtains, I think giving a range of QQ+/AK for BB when he instacalls is definitely too loose. Maybe give like 4 combos of AK and like 2 combos of QQ. I think QQ is a fold.
However, I don't see how you can fold KK here. Between the occasional BB who thinks AK/QQ is the nuts and that KK is way ahead of SB's range (there's a side pot after all), I don't see how you could ever fold KK here. |
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Re: QQ in the WSOP $650.
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 24.087% 23.12% 00.96% 1086512566 45326963.33 { QQ } Hand 1: 58.719% 56.76% 01.96% 2667200588 91965809.33 { KK+, QdQs, QhQs, AKs } Hand 2: 17.194% 15.62% 01.57% 733947512 73991273.33 { KdKh, KdKs, KhKs, QQ-99, AQs+, AQo+ } equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 34.890% 31.20% 03.70% 1046787854 123989748.00 { KK } Hand 1: 49.240% 45.38% 03.86% 1522685460 129604158.00 { KK+, QdQs, QhQs, AKs } Hand 2: 15.870% 15.36% 00.51% 515369782 17168790.00 { KdKh, KdKs, KhKs, QQ-99, AQs+, AQo+ } equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 65.632% 64.31% 01.32% 303928758 6246258.00 { QQ } Hand 1: 34.368% 33.05% 01.32% 156174630 6246258.00 { KdKh, KdKs, KhKs, QQ-99, AQs+, AQo+ } equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 75.520% 74.78% 00.74% 372622338 3677328.00 { KK } Hand 1: 24.480% 23.74% 00.74% 118303470 3677328.00 { KdKh, KdKs, KhKs, QQ-99, AQs+, AQo+ } |
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Re: QQ in the WSOP $650.
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Curtains, I think giving a range of QQ+/AK for BB when he instacalls is definitely too loose. Maybe give like 4 combos of AK and like 2 combos of QQ. I think QQ is a fold. However, I don't see how you can fold KK here. Between the occasional BB who thinks AK/QQ is the nuts and that KK is way ahead of SB's range (there's a side pot after all), I don't see how you could ever fold KK here. [/ QUOTE ] Well we have QQ, so its not like they are often going to have QQ. We are 40% against AA/KK and AK and some chance both players duplicate with AK. Folding KK is of course the worst thing in history. So you think this player is going to fold AK in this spot? |
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Re: QQ in the WSOP $650.
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I think we must call, probably close to 33% equity here, which is more than we need. ie if one guys range is QQ+,AKs,AKo and the original allin guy is: KK-99,AQs+,AQo+ I dunno maybe its SLIGHTLY too loose for the first allin guy, but who knows. Either way we should be getting around the equity we need, despite it being quite unpleasant. [/ QUOTE ] But we're not playing for first?? This looks like an easy fold imo. That instacall is going to be AA/KK a ton. |
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Re: QQ in the WSOP $650.
If your read on the insta call is that strong, I think it's a fold and I think KK could be one to. His range for instacalling here has to be pretty close to KK+.
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