how badly did i play these queens? nl 25

burns-1986 · #1 11-13-2007, 09:43 AM

New to the table so no reads, should i just make a continuation bet or was checking ok? On the turn looking at it now i see it was a terrible call, is anybody continuing with the hand once the one card straight and flush get there?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

UTG ($25)
MP ($28.90)
Hero ($24.65)
Button ($24.90)
SB ($31.80)
BB ($54)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $1, MP calls $1, Hero raises to $4, 3 folds, UTG calls $3, MP calls $3.

Flop: ($12.35) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($12.35) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, MP bets $8, Hero calls $8, UTG raises to $21, MP calls $13, Hero calls $12.65 (All-In).

River: ($75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $75

burns-1986 · #2 11-13-2007, 10:50 AM

bump imo

jasonfish11 · #3 11-13-2007, 11:00 AM

Uggg. This is a nasty hand. I would normaly bet about 75-100% of the pot but that damn near commits you. I think a $5 shows way too much weakness. I dont really like checking here but I think it might be your best option.

Turn is a fold to the $8 against 2 opponents IMO. But I probably fold too much. I can see an argument for shoving. I dont like calling the $8 bet at all.

GamblorZ · #4 11-13-2007, 11:00 AM

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New to the table so no reads, should i just make a continuation bet or was checking ok? On the turn looking at it now i see it was a terrible call, is anybody continuing with the hand once the one card straight and flush get there?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

UTG ($25)
MP ($28.90)
Hero ($24.65)
Button ($24.90)
SB ($31.80)
BB ($54)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $1, MP calls $1, Hero raises to $4, 3 folds, UTG calls $3, MP calls $3.

Flop: ($12.35) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($12.35) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, MP bets $8, Hero calls $8, UTG raises to $21, MP calls $13, Hero calls $12.65 (All-In).

River: ($75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $75

Results in white below: 
UTG has Jd Ac (straight, ace high).
MP has Kc Ts (two pair, kings and tens).
Hero has Qc Qs (three of a kind, queens).
Outcome: UTG wins $75. 

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interesting spot, a very similar situation is on the latest high stakes poker episode (Gold make top set, Antonius makes broadway on the turn). The difference is though that this is a 300BB pot and you have a high set. I would call becuase I can see many hands pushing the turn (QK,KT,A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K, TT,99

FalconTi0 · #5 11-13-2007, 11:04 AM

i fold the turn.

corsakh · #6 11-13-2007, 11:18 AM

Flop is good. Push turn. Lots of worse hands are calling you, there aren't many jacks in their range. You have outs.

Ketelsen · #7 11-13-2007, 12:36 PM

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Flop is good. Push turn. Lots of worse hands are calling you, there aren't many jacks in their range. You have outs.

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Arp220 · #8 11-13-2007, 01:15 PM

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Flop is good. Push turn. Lots of worse hands are calling you, there aren't many jacks in their range. You have outs.

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How is the flop good? You're in position against two opponents who are probably both drawing, so I'd make them pay and pot it.

n4rf · #9 11-13-2007, 01:21 PM

I'd bet pot, and when it gets to the turn it gets bad. If you call the original bet of $8, you basically have to call the re-raise AI (even though you didn't necessarily know it was going to happen). I'd probably call as well, but I know I wouldn't have the best hand and am only drawing to the better hand.

genius55 · #10 11-13-2007, 12:38 PM

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i fold the turn.

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