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Old 11-14-2007, 02:56 PM
NinaWilliams NinaWilliams is offline
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Default I suck at poker and handreading

Villain is a solid 30/20/2.5 TAG. Ive seen him overplay hands a couple times.

Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $5/$10
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, CO calls.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6.6SB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4.3BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>,
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Old 11-14-2007, 03:08 PM
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Default Re: I suck at poker and handreading

Call down from the raise and hope he has QJ, KQ or AQ and not KJ. Don't raise the turn, but from your title I'm guessing you already know that. KJ is the most likely hand considering you have a Q already though.
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Old 11-14-2007, 03:18 PM
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Default Re: I suck at poker and handreading

I'll usually 3-bet here.
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Old 11-14-2007, 03:20 PM
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Default Re: I suck at poker and handreading

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I'll usually 3-bet here.

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What do you think his range is?
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Old 11-14-2007, 03:24 PM
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Default Re: I suck at poker and handreading

Well all those hands you mentioned, + AJ + diamonds

don't just do a stove though because he has to call the flop and pop the turn.

note KJ is a double gutter so he can raise that on the flop.
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Old 11-14-2007, 03:56 PM
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Default Re: I suck at poker and handreading

There is T9s, QT, Q9s, 77, J8s. It's not a good board to semi bluf.
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Old 11-14-2007, 05:57 PM
ILOVEPOKER929 ILOVEPOKER929 is offline
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Default Re: I suck at poker and handreading

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I'll usually 3-bet here.

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Anybody who 3bets the turn in this spot sucks at poker. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I seriously think 3betting this turn is horrible.
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Old 11-14-2007, 06:00 PM
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Default Re: I suck at poker and handreading

I think calling and checkraising good rivers is probably better than 3-betting. JMO though, could be wrong.
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Old 11-14-2007, 06:04 PM
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Default Re: I suck at poker and handreading

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I'll usually 3-bet here.

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Anybody who 3bets the turn in this spot sucks at poker. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I seriously think 3betting this turn is horrible.

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Why don't you just give me your 2p2 password and i can make this post for you every time? hahaha

fwiw that's fine blah blah "games you play in" blah blah "your image vs. my image" blah blah this and that.

In a lot of pots i'm probably as, if not more passive than you, but in this spot in particular i'll 3-bet vs. this guy if all i have is all OP has put up, which is pretty common. There's nothing wrong with calling down, and as i say to my students "if you're in a spot where it's reraise or call and you don't know what to do - call for now"

but plz. TPTK is a monster. IMO, if TPTK is not a monster for you, you're not in enough pots.
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Old 11-14-2007, 06:12 PM
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Default Re: I suck at poker and handreading

For once I disagree with you danza. And pretty much for the reasons others have stated.

I do wanna add tho. If he is on like a diamond draw or a gut and is prepared to fire the river UI, then 3-betting doesnt do you any good against that range.

Quoting that people have a draw is usually not an argument for raising IMO
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