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Old 01-30-2007, 02:44 PM
Eihli Eihli is offline
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Default Toughest hand I\'ve had in a long time. Ass end of straight 200BB deep

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($449.55)
SB ($373.25)
BB ($199)
UTG ($432.20)
MP ($256.30)
CO ($191)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $8, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($19) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $14</font>, Hero calls $14.

Turn: ($47) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $38</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $138</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $223
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Old 01-30-2007, 02:46 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: Toughest hand I\'ve had in a long time. Ass end of straight 200BB deep

Wow this is an insanely easy shove. Also, not raising flop is pretty bad.
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Old 01-30-2007, 02:50 PM
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Default Re: Toughest hand I\'ve had in a long time. Ass end of straight 200BB deep

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Wow this is an insanely easy shove. Also, not raising flop is pretty bad.

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This is a great call on the flop IMO. Raising is ok, but there are a lot of hands that we can represent on the turn and we have a very hidden draw. There is also very little to representing by raising the flop.
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Old 01-30-2007, 02:51 PM
JohnAndersen JohnAndersen is offline
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Default Re: Toughest hand I\'ve had in a long time. Ass end of straight 200BB deep

not that we are bluffing, I think this is a situation where we are the one getting the value
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Old 01-30-2007, 02:51 PM
Abramovic Abramovic is offline
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Wow this is an insanely easy shove. Also, not raising flop is pretty bad.

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This is a great call on the flop IMO. Raising is ok, but there are a lot of hands that we can represent on the turn and we have a very hidden draw. There is also very little to representing by raising the flop.

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You misread the hand. We have no draw. We have a straight.
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Old 01-30-2007, 03:13 PM
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Wow this is an insanely easy shove. Also, not raising flop is pretty bad.

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This is a great call on the flop IMO. Raising is ok, but there are a lot of hands that we can represent on the turn and we have a very hidden draw. There is also very little to representing by raising the flop.

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You misread the hand. We have no draw. We have a straight.

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yup, I totally misread the hand. My comments should be opposite, raising should be better because there are are so many draws that we may have, and few made hands.

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Old 01-30-2007, 05:32 PM
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Default Re: Toughest hand I\'ve had in a long time. Ass end of straight 200BB

PLaying weaktight and scared is not the way to beat this game...
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Old 01-30-2007, 02:53 PM
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Default Re: Toughest hand I\'ve had in a long time. Ass end of straight 200BB

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Wow this is an insanely easy shove. Also, not raising flop is pretty bad.

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This is a great call on the flop IMO. Raising is ok, but there are a lot of hands that we can represent on the turn and we have a very hidden draw. There is also very little to representing by raising the flop.

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Flop call is okay for deception since the stacks are deep and we want to disguise our hand. But it is flat wrong that we can't rep anything with a flush draw. This is like the most coordinated board ever, and so hero can easily rep a wide range with a flop raise. So you should be raising this flop with a wide range anwyays, so it is a pretty easy raise when you have the 2nd nuts.
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Old 01-30-2007, 02:50 PM
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Wow this is an insanely easy shove. Also, not raising flop is pretty bad.

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Old 01-30-2007, 03:03 PM
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Default Re: Toughest hand I\'ve had in a long time. Ass end of straight 200BB

agreed shoudl have raise flop, only behind to KQ so you love this flop, i hope you never ever fold this again, plusif you are always that scared you definately fold to much! Turn is easy shove, he is strong so will proabably call which is what you want cause you are way ahead at his stage!
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