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NL200 Vilain weak lead donk turn on my pair and turned flush draw
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)
SB: $209.85 <u>BB: $405.40</u> UTG: $291.80 CO: $390.45 <u>Hero (BTN): $191.80</u> Reads: <font color="blue">Vilain is 40/22/4.5 over a short sample of 100 hands. I have no specific read on him beside that he defend is blinds a lot and he like to call c-bets.</font> Preflop: Hero is dealt 5 8 (5 Players) 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7.00</font>, SB folds, BB calls $5.00 Flop: ($15) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players) BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $10.00</font>, BB calls $10.00 Turn: ($35) K (2 Players) <font color="red">BB bets $15.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero?</font> |
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Re: NL200 Vilain weak lead donk turn on my pair and turned flush draw
please don't raise pf with 58, even if it's suited. Lead on the flop is fine. I think youre behind his range on turn, so just call, you have a lot of outs, and can make hm pay on river.
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Re: NL200 Vilain weak lead donk turn on my pair and turned flush draw
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please don't raise pf with 58, even if it's suited. Lead on the flop is fine. I think youre behind his range on turn, so just call, you have a lot of outs, and can make hm pay on river. [/ QUOTE ] 85s is a perfect steal hand if the blinds fold a decent amount or really suck.... iow it's usually good OTB your flop bet is very small.... FDs str8 draws etc.... so pretend you have AK and bet that amount... so a little bigger calling turn is fine, you prob have a lot of outs, and you have position villain may have a weak A a turned K a FD it's kinda hard to put him on a hand, but a board that's this drawy i don't think you have too much FE if you do raise the turn |
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Re: NL200 Vilain weak lead donk turn on my pair and turned flush draw
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please don't raise pf with 58, even if it's suited. Lead on the flop is fine. I think youre behind his range on turn, so just call, you have a lot of outs, and can make hm pay on river. [/ QUOTE ] Please don't tell me not to raise 58s OTB. |
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Re: NL200 Vilain weak lead donk turn on my pair and turned flush draw
My tought were that he was probably on a heart draw, and was setting the price with is small bet.
Given this, anyone like a raise turn/shove any none heart river? -Happy [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
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Re: NL200 Vilain weak lead donk turn on my pair and turned flush draw
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My tought were that he was probably on a heart draw, and was setting the price with is small bet. Given this, anyone like a raise turn/shove any none heart river? -Happy [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] I usually would but unfortunatly he may have a weak ace a lot of the time here. If you raise the turn firing a non-heart river is spew unless you feel he can drop A-rag. If we raise turn our hand is a bluff and we need FE against hands that we beat. Whiffed draws are already behind us and underpairs fold to our turn raise, so a river push needs to be able to drop a weak top pair to be worthwhile. |
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Re: NL200 Vilain weak lead donk turn on my pair and turned flush draw
i raise turn for sure, pop it up to like 60. this is kind of for metagame b/c i hate letting people see that they can get away with < 1/2-pot bets vs me. also, calling turn kinda shuts off your chance for a river play if you don't improve, as it would be a totally unbelievable bluff. raising turn, however, would allow you to shove a variety of rivers.
additionally....guys, preflop is not bad, and even if it is, no one gives a [censored] |
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Re: NL200 Vilain weak lead donk turn on my pair and turned flush draw
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My tought were that he was probably on a heart draw, and was setting the price with is small bet. Given this, anyone like a raise turn/shove any none heart river? -Happy [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] shoving blank rivers is silly, ducy? |
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Sorry for the delay...
I raise turn to 60$, planning to push any non heart or Ace river, but vilain pushed. I compouded my error by calling whit 14 outs vs one pair, but my opponent obviously had better then a pair, I only had 9-11 outs vs 2 pairs IF is 2 pairs don't include a 5, and only 7-9 vs 2 pairs whit a 5 and 7 outs vs sets... 14outs was a breakeven call, but lower then that was obviously -EV... He had 66 and I missed. I hate stacking of to donks like that... Thanks for the responses. -Happy [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
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Re: NL200 Vilain weak lead donk turn on my pair and turned flush draw
he's offering you great odds. in position, i like just taking the odds and hoping to hit. you could raise, but this guy looks stubborn. and with a 4.5AF, he might just shove on you which would be a disaster.
just call. |
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