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Old 11-22-2007, 03:27 AM
O.T.G. O.T.G. is offline
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Default 50NL: Down 10 buyins in 7K hands (Help me analyze some hands)

After 8K hands at 50NL I was up 10 buyins and 7K hands later I am back to even.

After looking at my pokertracker HHs I see that most of the downswing is just from gross bad beats or coolers. There are only a few stand out hands that I think I played poorly. Below are several hands that I am not sure about and hope that you guys can help me fill some leaks.

Hand #1
Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Hero ($81.50)
UTG ($101.05)
UTG+1 ($194.85)
MP1 ($95.15)
MP2 ($88.20)
MP3 ($11.60)
CO ($19.10)
Button ($20.80)
SB ($12.15)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, UTG+1 calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, UTG calls $3.50, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls $3.50, CO folds.

Flop: ($13.25) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $25</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $77.5 (All-In)</font>, UTG calls $52.50.

Turn: ($168.25) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>
.

River: ($168.25) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $168.25

The villain was a huge donk which is why I stacked off on such a dry board. I still think I messed this up pretty bad.


Hand #2
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UTG ($102.45)
UTG+1 ($37.05)
MP1 ($62.70)
Hero ($50)
CO ($53.55)
Button ($63.25)
SB ($49.50)
BB ($43.15)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6.75</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP1 calls $4.75.

Flop: ($14.25) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $10</font>, Hero calls $10.

Turn: ($34.25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $45.95 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $33.25 (All-In).

River: ($113.45) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>
.

Final Pot: $113.45

I just called on the flop because I figured I would just fold out hand like 99-QQ. Then on the turn I pick up the nut flush draw to go with TPTK. Easy call?


Hand #3
Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

BB ($50)
UTG ($49.75)
UTG+1 ($53.80)
MP1 ($10)
MP2 ($35.85)
MP3 ($16.55)
Hero ($50)
Button ($41.75)
SB ($42.45)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.25</font>, Button calls $2.25, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls $1.75.

Flop: ($7.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $16</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $47.75 (All-In)</font>, Button calls $23.50 (All-In).

Turn: ($94.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>
.

River: ($94.75) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $94.75

Villain was a bad player, but I still think I overplayed this hand. I felt it was way to nitty to just fold, and I didnt wanna flat call and have no idea where I was at. Did I overplay this?


Hand #4
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BB ($31.25)
UTG ($42.25)
UTG+1 ($50)
MP1 ($29.35)
MP2 ($6.40)
CO ($79.45)
Button ($29.60)
Hero ($49.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 folds, CO calls $2.50.

Flop: ($7) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, CO calls $5.

Turn: ($17) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $28.5</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $57.50

Had no read on the villain.


Hand #5
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BB ($4)
UTG ($54.50)
UTG+1 ($13)
MP1 ($13.30)
MP2 ($52.25)
CO ($49.70)
Hero ($67.45)
SB ($89.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, CO calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.75</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $2.25.

Flop: ($6.25) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.75</font>, CO calls $4.75.

Turn: ($15.75) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $20</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $45.75

Had no read. Didn't know whether to check behind the scary turn card and giving the free card, or just pound away. Then the check min raise just gave me the feeling I was beat.


Hand #6
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CO ($9.70)
Button ($96.60)
SB ($56.10)
BB ($182.80)
UTG ($48.40)
Hero ($50)
MP1 ($43.20)
MP2 ($53.55)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls $1.75, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: ($4.25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, MP2 calls $3.

Turn: ($10.25) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $7</font>, MP2 calls $7.

River: ($24.25) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $13.5</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $37.75

No read again. The K looked like a good card to 2 barrel but he still called so I was worried about a big hand. Then I hit my ace on river, but wasn't even sure if I was now ahead. When I check he fires into the ace and the king on board and I just didnt see what I could beat. Maybe I butchered this hand.


Hands #7 though infinty
I have never ever ever in my life experienced such a long stretch of hands where I get raised every single time I c-bet when I miss and get tons and tons of folds when I c-bet with a good hand. This is friggin 50NL. 99% of the players aren't taking away pots from you with nothing. Are my opponents actually flopping big hands on me that often? It is getting scary. I am also getting most of my big hands in the blinds and have to play them OOP. 3 limpers and I have AK in the SB, I have to raise it up and bloat the pot OOP. Should I just complete?
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Old 11-22-2007, 04:45 AM
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Default Re: 50NL: Down 10 buyins in 7K hands (Help me analyze some hands)

No offence, I really prefer the hands one by one with a new thread for each of them.

Makes it a lot easier especialy when multiple answers come.
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Old 11-22-2007, 04:48 AM
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Default Re: 50NL: Down 10 buyins in 7K hands (Help me analyze some hands)

My bad. I just thought it would be easier to just go down the line and say...

#1 You suck
#2 You are terrible
#3 Quit poker now
etc

Next time I'll do multiple threads.
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Old 11-22-2007, 04:56 AM
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Default Re: 50NL: Down 10 buyins in 7K hands (Help me analyze some hands)

[ QUOTE ]

#1 You suck
#2 You are terrible
#3 Quit poker now
etc


[/ QUOTE ]

Well, you can get a lot of support here. So the answers are really more like "#2, turn betting, his range is... when he ... you should probably.... river becomes easier then because.... but as played..."

Now imagine ten answers to a mix of multible hands [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
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Old 11-22-2007, 05:00 AM
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Default Re: 50NL: Down 10 buyins in 7K hands (Help me analyze some hands)

I am confused now. I am was just hoping for players that wanted to help to scan down the list of 6 hands and give advice on how the hands should be played.
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Old 11-22-2007, 07:18 AM
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Default Re: 50NL: Down 10 buyins in 7K hands (Help me analyze some hands)

I play one level lower, but I doubt the games change that much that my comments would be useless. Its a bit hard to give advice as you don't even put PT stats on the villains. Just saying that a player is bad doesn't do much for me, as I don't know if you mean that he plays too many hands, plays too passively/agressively or folds too easy.

Hand 1: Your push is only going to be called by hands that beat you, and you are both deep so I think pushing is bad.

Hand 3: You say button is bad, but is he really going to raise &amp; felt TPGK on a J-high board? I'd fold flop, especially when OOP.

Hand 6: I'm calling river all day. The flush &amp; straight draws missed and you gave villain an opportunity to bluff.
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