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Old 07-09-2007, 11:43 AM
tommy2 tommy2 is offline
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Default How to get preferred treatment in a poker room?

After reading numerous posts over the last few months on "regulars" receiving preferential treatment in a room, I am starting to rethink my approach, which has always been low-key.

Here is what I would imagine one needs to do to become a regular who has the floorman and most dealers giving them small but significant edges (such as quietly putting them in a game when there is a long wait, siding with them on grey area table decisions, etc.) :

1. Tip well. But (besides the dealers, obv.) who, how often and how much? I tip the cage a couple of bucks on the way in and out and give the dealers $1-2 per winning hand even on blind steals. I barely get thanked usually.

2. Play often. I'm a 2-3 times per month player, but move around so I'm only in the same place once a month or so. How often do you need to be there to be recognized?

3. Have good manners/call floor men and dealers by their name a bunch. Although, frankly, some of the regulars have the worst manners in the place.

4. Have a player card.

What am I missing? Being a regular seems +EV in other words and I am rethinking my under the radar technique.
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Old 07-09-2007, 10:59 PM
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Default Re: How to get preferred treatment in a poker room?

Being polite to the staff when chatting with them at any time is 100% always +EV. Politeness will go a long way to being "remembered" in the future, trust me. Also, willingness to start games and even bring friends in to start or play in currently running games is another great way. They see you putting effort into having good games going and they'll remember it.
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Old 07-10-2007, 01:31 AM
icemankazanski icemankazanski is offline
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Don't forget about the security guards!!! They are very neglected and an intregal part of casino function. I tend to run my mouth...I'm the king at putting people on tilt. I always make sure that the big guys in the house are watching my back because I am sure that there are more than a few people at my local casino who would like to kick my butt.

Some casinos don't allow you to tip security.
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Old 07-09-2007, 11:04 PM
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Default Re: How to get preferred treatment in a poker room?

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I tip the cage a couple of bucks on the way in and out and give the dealers $1-2 per winning hand even on blind steals. I barely get thanked usually.



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This surprises me. "barely" meaning rarely, or "barely" meaning all they say is "Thank you, sir." If it's the former, save your money.

If you mean "Bearly" as in, they give you a huge bear hug, you might want to think about frequenting a different poker room. Unless you like that sort of thing.
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Old 07-09-2007, 11:14 PM
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Default Re: How to get preferred treatment in a poker room?

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I tip the cage a couple of bucks on the way in and out and give the dealers $1-2 per winning hand even on blind steals. I barely get thanked usually.



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This surprises me. "barely" meaning rarely, or "barely" meaning all they say is "Thank you, sir." If it's the former, save your money.

If you mean "Bearly" as in, they give you a huge bear hug, you might want to think about frequenting a different poker room. Unless you like that sort of thing.

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I just spent the last weekend playing at Caesar's AC and not only did I rarely get thanked for tokes, I had dealers glare at me and throw cards at me (seriously, not exaggerating, cards off the table into my hands/lap) when I neglected to tip on every single pot I won. We were playing a horribly tight 5 handed 1/2 NL game, and most pots were me stealing the blinds. There is just no way I'm tipping every time I steal blinds. I probably gave her 3 bucks in her down, which I think is reasonable. As soon as she started making a huge production out of it and pouting like a child, I made some loud comments and laughed and thanked her for reminding me to never tip her again for the rest of my life.

The behavior I saw from other dealers was not this bad but close, and directed at numerous other players (the only time it was directed at me was this one dealer, in case I'm coming off as some stingy prick).

All in all it was a fun experience though! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 07-10-2007, 02:21 PM
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I just spent the last weekend playing at Caesar's AC and not only did I rarely get thanked for tokes...

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If a dealer doesn't thank me or knock the chip on the box or something, I don't tip him or her again that session.
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Old 07-10-2007, 02:44 PM
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I just spent the last weekend playing at Caesar's AC and not only did I rarely get thanked for tokes...

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If a dealer doesn't thank me or knock the chip on the box or something, I don't tip him or her again that session.

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Don't worry, this dealer is on my "no tip ever at any session" list. In fact, she became only the second member of that list.
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Old 07-10-2007, 09:23 PM
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I stopped playing at Caesars AC because the dealers there are too slow and too chatty, resulting in few hands per hour and putting me on tilt.
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Old 07-11-2007, 12:03 AM
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I see this in the Chicago/Milw area fairly often. I know a tip is customary, but it isn't obligatory. I worked in retail for years and always thanked people who tipped me, even though, as a waiter, it is customary. I don't get it--sometimes I feel like they are trying to silently tell you that $1 tip is cheap or something and that 2+ is what you should be giving. Isn't a buck sufficient and standard at low buyin NL games?
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Old 07-09-2007, 11:17 PM
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From a purely EV standpoint, I can't see how tipping the cage is going to be any benefit whatsoever. How would you get preferred treatment from them, except for the possibility of outright stealing?
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