CRYING CALL FOR HELP

[muskie]

Hello all,
I'm posting this while I am considering never playing again. My main question is has anyone gone on a 60,000 hand downswing of 350BB's and still knew they were playing a good game? I am currently in the longest lasting but not worst(BB wise) downswing of my life playing both 2/4 full and 6-max. NOTHING right has happened in roughly 60K hands. Every session I sit and find 4 decent games and gradually or quickly turn it into a losing session filled with horrific beats and fishouts. I know many of you have had downswings of 350+ but has it lasted over 60K hands? I just can't remember what it's like to have anything hold up. This swing has effected everything from online to the casinos right down to the friendly home tournament. My numbers are 18.56/10.48/3.04 during this downswing, how are these? I just want to throw my laptop out the window and never log on again. Any words of wisdom would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Muskie

[Cold Klapp]

Don't concentrate on your beats and unlucky draws. Maintain the professional attitude and maintain an analytical attitude towards your game.

[MacGuyV]

I've heard of well respected players here going on 100k breakeven stretches. I'm sure your results are a combination of running bad and mistakes. What % of each nobody knows - try posting some blind steal/defending situations you feel uneasy about - you undoubtably could loosen up in those areas based on your stats.

[muskie]

Stupid question, the three numbers are vol pit in pot, p/f raise, and aggression factor right? I'm new with PT

[DawnToDusk]

Yes they are.

[muskie]

My numbers for 6-max are 19.7/12.75/3.5. Are any of those decent, and what do these #'s imply that I should do different? Thanks

[MikeNaked]

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My numbers for 6-max are 19.7/12.75/3.5. Are any of those decent, and what do these #'s imply that I should do different? Thanks

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This sentence indicates three things: 1) You are too tight preflop, 2) You are too passive preflop, and 3) You do not read or post enough. If you want to get better, study more.

[DawnToDusk]

Why dont you take a vacation and then come back and reevaluate your playing? I know that when I go on long stretches of what I consider breaking even or downswings, a good week vacation or even not playing at all helps me and especially when I come back and look at how I am playing.

I kind of get the feeling that you are compounding your feelings about being on a downswing/breaking even if you are still playing this through. There have been worse, but I really do think you can do with a break. In your case maybe even a month.

[dchz]

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Why dont you take a vacation and then come back and reevaluate your playing? I know that when I go on long stretches of what I consider breaking even or downswings, a good week vacation or even not playing at all helps me and especially when I come back and look at how I am playing.

I kind of get the feeling that you are compounding your feelings about being on a downswing/breaking even if you are still playing this through. There have been worse, but I really do think you can do with a break. In your case maybe even a month.

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i agree

hey man i thought my swings were bad, i'm a relatively new player (2 serious months of play) and i'm down 600 Big Bets playing .5/1 limit (yikes, I KNOW!!)

since i've lost alot more than you, i think i can speak on this a bit:

Poker is not a game fully based on skill, it is NEVER 100% skill, so when you are losing, it is always partially due to luck,

However, is it always bad beats?!?!? I believe Jennifer Harman, (i hope you konw who she is...) posted on one of the tips from fulltilt.net that when she's in a loosing streak (how can jennifer harman be losing in Limit holdem??!?!) she always takes a step back and look at the game, even ask her friends about certain hands,

i believe in addition to taking a break, which is crucial to the game at times, you should use your friends on Two + Two to help you look at your hands... 60k losing streak is huge!! but you can either lose all that time and effort and learn nothing and quit this great game forever, or you can simply pay that time and money to learn something....

i personally would chose the second choice, money you lost has been lost, all you can do is look on the future, i believe you should take a break and take another look at your game, i know i am just a small timer now, but i firmly believe this should be the route to take

I am looking forward to your posts in the future [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

gl hf

[kapw7]

60K and -350BB at 2/4 is really bad. You are most likely a losing player so you need to decide if you want to improve and go on or stop playing this game.