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02-23-2007, 12:35 AM
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Interesting religious occurrence today, thoughts?
My friend just told me a story today, and I wanted to know how you guys (particularly atheists) would explain it. Let me preface by saying I do not believe that this proves the existence of God. However, many atheists on here claim there is no God because they come up with scenarios that Christians ignore/can't explain, but not too many discuss it the other way around. Here it goes...
A friend from my church was at lunch with her friend. She saw a girl sitting at another table, and felt like God wanted her to go talk to the girl. She ignored it at first, thinking it was her own thoughts, but then the girl kept looking at her, and her friend asked her if she knew the girl, so she finally decided she should go talk to her. (Keep in mind, it is not normal for my friend to just start talking to strangers based on God telling her to) She said, "You might think I'm crazy, but God told me to come talk to you, and to tell you that I know something horrible happened in your past, but that if you don't stop looking in your rearview mirror, you're going to crash." The girl responded by saying, "When I was 19, I had a baby and gave her up for adoption, and I've regretted it ever since, and today is her birthday." I just want to know what you guys think about this, and why things like this happen every day. 
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02-23-2007, 12:40 AM
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Re: Interesting religious occurrence today, thoughts?
i predict big things for this thread.
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02-23-2007, 12:41 AM
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Re: Interesting religious occurrence today, thoughts?
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i predict big things for this thread. [/ QUOTE ] Let me start it off with a bang: Occurances like this are far more terrifying for Christians than for atheists. If there is proof that God exists, your whole life is meaningless.
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02-23-2007, 12:44 AM
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Re: Interesting religious occurrence today, thoughts?
Okay, but my point is that atheists say things that Christians ignore/can't explain, and atheists believe this helps prove Christianity is false. I'm just asking that atheists explain these occurrences instead of ignoring them.
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02-23-2007, 12:56 AM
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Re: Interesting religious occurrence today, thoughts?
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Okay, but my point is that atheists say things that Christians ignore/can't explain, and atheists believe this helps prove Christianity is false. I'm just asking that atheists explain these occurrences instead of ignoring them. [/ QUOTE ] I don't put much stock in proving Christianity is false. The burden of proof is on the Christians, not me.
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02-23-2007, 12:57 AM
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Re: Interesting religious occurrence today, thoughts?
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[ QUOTE ] Okay, but my point is that atheists say things that Christians ignore/can't explain, and atheists believe this helps prove Christianity is false. I'm just asking that atheists explain these occurrences instead of ignoring them. [/ QUOTE ] I don't put much stock in proving Christianity is false. The burden of proof is on the Christians, not me. [/ QUOTE ] Also, this story only proves one thing: the immutable power of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. This is exactly his style.
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02-23-2007, 11:41 PM
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Re: Interesting religious occurrence today, thoughts?
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[ QUOTE ] i predict big things for this thread. [/ QUOTE ] Let me start it off with a bang: Occurances like this are far more terrifying for Christians than for atheists. If there is proof that God exists, your whole life is meaningless. [/ QUOTE ] Christians believe in humans who have spoke and saw God. Darn, life is meaningless! God could tell someone through feeling, notice he never said God spoke to her so that doesnt mean she heard words(which doesn't discredit her story), just means that feeling told her to do that. I don't think I am qualified to make a determination to whether this is true or not, and either do any of you. BTW, your spaghetti monster comments are way beneath you, I truly think your better then that sir. Mike.
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02-24-2007, 11:15 AM
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Re: Interesting religious occurrence today, thoughts?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] i predict big things for this thread. [/ QUOTE ] Let me start it off with a bang: Occurances like this are far more terrifying for Christians than for atheists. If there is proof that God exists, your whole life is meaningless. [/ QUOTE ] Christians believe in humans who have spoke and saw God. Darn, life is meaningless! God could tell someone through feeling, notice he never said God spoke to her so that doesnt mean she heard words(which doesn't discredit her story), just means that feeling told her to do that. I don't think I am qualified to make a determination to whether this is true or not, and either do any of you. BTW, your spaghetti monster comments are way beneath you, I truly think your better then that sir. Mike. [/ QUOTE ] I think superstitious beliefs like this can only exist because of ignorance. For example, you say god could tell her by giving her a feeling. A feeling is certain activity in the brain/body. It's very complicated, with billions of neurons and inhibitors and exhibitors and hormones, etc. involved. Now, how would god affect someone's feeling? Add a little serotonin? Activate some neurons?
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02-24-2007, 03:42 PM
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Re: Interesting religious occurrence today, thoughts?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] i predict big things for this thread. [/ QUOTE ] Let me start it off with a bang: Occurances like this are far more terrifying for Christians than for atheists. If there is proof that God exists, your whole life is meaningless. [/ QUOTE ] Christians believe in humans who have spoke and saw God. Darn, life is meaningless! God could tell someone through feeling, notice he never said God spoke to her so that doesnt mean she heard words(which doesn't discredit her story), just means that feeling told her to do that. I don't think I am qualified to make a determination to whether this is true or not, and either do any of you. BTW, your spaghetti monster comments are way beneath you, I truly think your better then that sir. Mike. [/ QUOTE ] I think superstitious beliefs like this can only exist because of ignorance. For example, you say god could tell her by giving her a feeling. A feeling is certain activity in the brain/body. It's very complicated, with billions of neurons and inhibitors and exhibitors and hormones, etc. involved. Now, how would god affect someone's feeling? Add a little serotonin? Activate some neurons? [/ QUOTE ] Well your choosing believe that there is no God so the only feelings we have are natural are with our brains and body. Those who believe in God think he can give us special feelings and inspiration as reward for choosing right things in regards to faith in him and his works. So if you don't understand by now that we believe in things more then science and math can just prove, you will just be robotic in how you discuss this in the future. I find it to be pure ignorance to think that you feel feelings only cause of brain/body and that you don't think even if there even is a God he wouldn't guide us through feeling. I think that's a very ignorant position. When you might a right decision, you feel a certain way, and wrong you feel a certain way, you just don't feel the way most of the time. If that decision is because you believe in God, isn't that a feeling inspired by him, guided by his works and believed presence? And If there is a God, and you are really a spiritual, don't you think he would guide you through some hard times like he said in the Bible by maybe giving a little feeling, etc and seeing if we follow it and if we choose to follow it, that's known as a blessing.
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02-24-2007, 11:57 AM
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Re: Interesting religious occurrence today, thoughts?
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Christians believe in humans who have spoke and saw God. Darn, life is meaningless! [/ QUOTE ] this sarcastic response shows that you didn't understand his post..perhaps you should ask him what he was referring to... [ QUOTE ] God could tell someone through feeling, notice he never said God spoke to her so that doesnt mean she heard words(which doesn't discredit her story), just means that feeling told her to do that. [/ QUOTE ] they are the same thing for our purposes [ QUOTE ] BTW, your spaghetti monster comments are way beneath you, I truly think your better then that sir. [/ QUOTE ] you keep dismissing people's comparisons to the FSB, yet you never give reasons why you don't think that it is valid. unless you can show that this occurrence could take place if god exists, but not if the FSB exists, you have no right to make a determination as to which (if either) this experience indicates. for a comparison that may sit better with you.. a christian claims that god told them that the earth was created 100 million years ago. a muslim claims that god told them that the earth was created 200 million years ago. what conclusions can we come to based on this information? is it still likely that the christian is telling the truth?
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