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Old 04-26-2007, 02:03 PM
Municipal Hare Municipal Hare is offline
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I've dragged several pots in a row at this $5/$10 table, mostly on the turn and river without showdown. Still felt like I should've found the raise button on one of these three streets. Bashful? Dopey? Sneezy?

Preflop: (6 players) Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG (a tenacious 24/20/2.4) raises</font>, loose-passive HJ coldcalls, 3 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6.4SB, 3 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets</font>, HJ folds, Hero calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4.2BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.
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Old 04-26-2007, 02:46 PM
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I don't think an ace ever folds. KK/QQ is unlikely to fold on a board like this. JJ/88 never fold unless maybe you commit to firing the river. 77/99/TT take you to to the cleaners. KQ folds but doesn't always bet the turn.

you have pretty sweet equity - 15+ outs vs almost his entire range, so it's a cheap raise of really only about 2/3 of a BB to win 6, but I don't think you're going to get it quite often enough.
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Old 04-26-2007, 03:09 PM
ILOVEPOKER929 ILOVEPOKER929 is offline
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I don't think an ace ever folds. KK/QQ is unlikely to fold on a board like this. JJ/88 never fold unless maybe you commit to firing the river. 77/99/TT take you to to the cleaners. KQ folds but doesn't always bet the turn.

you have pretty sweet equity - 15+ outs vs almost his entire range, so it's a cheap raise of really only about 2/3 of a BB to win 6, but I don't think you're going to get it quite often enough.

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IMO, the hero has played this hand perfect so far. Learning when to semi-bluff is obviously an important skill. Learning when NOT to semibluff is an important skill also. This is a classic example of when not to semi-bluff.
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Old 04-26-2007, 03:10 PM
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I don't think an ace ever folds. KK/QQ is unlikely to fold on a board like this. JJ/88 never fold unless maybe you commit to firing the river. 77/99/TT take you to to the cleaners. KQ folds but doesn't always bet the turn.

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That was my feeling as the turn played out. Would you checkraise a turn 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]? What about a flop checkraise and turn lead?
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Old 04-26-2007, 03:12 PM
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Here's a question - what, if any, rivers should hero donk?

8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] certainly, as it's a pretty scary card for Ax to bet - B) you might get raised by AJ or QJ and get to 3-bet.
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Old 04-26-2007, 03:15 PM
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Here's a question - what, if any, rivers should hero donk?

8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] certainly, as it's a pretty scary card for Ax to bet - B) you might get raised by AJ or QJ and get to 3-bet.

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I would usually donk any club, and check/raise if I hit the non-club straight.
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Old 04-26-2007, 03:18 PM
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Here's a question - what, if any, rivers should hero donk?

8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] certainly, as it's a pretty scary card for Ax to bet - B) you might get raised by AJ or QJ and get to 3-bet.

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I would usually donk any club, and check/raise if I hit the non-club straight.

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You think villain in general is more likely to bet a 4 str8 than a 3 flush board?
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