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Old 06-09-2006, 02:31 PM
Vinny80 Vinny80 is offline
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Default QQ hits set than everything goes wrong...

Villain is 23.8/7.6/6 He plays a solid tag game and is very aggressive post-flop. I was very happy to see that flop and made a bet a bit more than my usual continuation bet because of all the draws. From this guy, I expected a fold or a raise. His call made me suspicious, either he didn't believe I had a hand or he was drawing with a lot of outs.

The flush comes up on the turn plus the A (I'm not sure he would reraise me 100% of the time preflop with AA). So I checked thinking he will probably bet here. If I smell weakness I may check-raise him, but I will probably see a river. His check behind me on turn is totaly out of character for him.

The river completes the straight draw. I had no idea what to do, he fired a pot sized bet and I layed down a good hand against I have no idea what. But I don't see what hands good enough for a flop call can't beat a set here, any thought??? Comments on all streets welcomed...

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $107.41
CO: $205.25
Button: $192.25
SB: $200.70
Hero: $223.40

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO calls $2</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $10</font>, CO calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($21, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $20</font>, CO calls.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($61, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

River: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($61, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $65</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $65 returned to CO.

Results:
Final pot: $61
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Old 06-09-2006, 02:36 PM
dazraf69 dazraf69 is offline
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Default Re: QQ hits set than everything goes wrong...

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Hero checks, CO bets $65, Hero folds.

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I wish I could do that. I would have led the river and re-evaluated. He could be doing this with a lot of hands. Your play looks more like you c-bet and missed, then game up the rest of the way. Tough spot. What do others think?
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Old 06-09-2006, 02:42 PM
mosuavea mosuavea is offline
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Default Re: QQ hits set than everything goes wrong...

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What do others think?

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That putting another dime in on the river is spewing. You beat nothing but a pure bluff on a board that is uglier than a naked Condalezza Rice.
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Old 06-09-2006, 02:45 PM
Vinny80 Vinny80 is offline
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That putting another dime in on the river is spewing. You beat nothing but a pure bluff on a board that is uglier than a naked Condalezza Rice.

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MY EYES, MY EYES!!!!
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Old 06-09-2006, 02:51 PM
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Default Re: QQ hits set than everything goes wrong...

lead turn
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Old 06-09-2006, 02:59 PM
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lead turn

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Old 06-09-2006, 03:40 PM
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lead turn

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Instinctively I would lead too, but how much seems right...40 hoping for the fold, and thats the last money in?

thanks
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Old 06-09-2006, 04:20 PM
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Default Re: QQ hits set than everything goes wrong...

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What do others think?

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That putting another dime in on the river is spewing. You beat nothing but a pure bluff on a board that is uglier than a naked Condalezza Rice.

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Awesome.

Oh, and leadturnleadturn blahblah lead the TURN.
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Old 06-09-2006, 04:32 PM
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Could you explain why we lead the turn please, I confused myself again [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 06-09-2006, 04:42 PM
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Could you explain why we lead the turn please, I confused myself again [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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