Oh how I wish Detoit would close all their poker rooms

otter · #1 08-23-2006, 11:24 PM

How I miss the good ole days of the home games that used to run rampant around town. No limit was rarely played, but some of the $5-10 up to $20-40 were the loosest around and the best I'd ever seen. I would usually start the game out and play until it ended. Then the casinos came around and everyone wanted to play in the casino since it was legal and who can blame 'em?

Sometimes you'd only be eating pizza (if you were lucky), but at other places there were REALLY nice home cooked meals. I was playing in a home game every day of the week and I miss the round by round games too. Sure at some places people would be blowing smoke in your face, but that's what those little fans were for. Besides that I like to play in a game where the people who are playing aren't concerned about their health. Those are some good gamblers!

Now we have Motor City w/ their crazy time charge at the no limit games and their $6+$1 for the bad beat rake at all the limit games and on top of that the dealers are doing you a favor if they get out 30 hands an hour. If you don't like that you can (if you're crazy enough) go down the road to Greektown where the staff is STILL the worst I've seen in the country, but hey if you play for 4 hours you can get a hot dog AND chips and even worse dealers!

One problem is that many of the bad players I used to play with can play any time and any day of the week. Instead of giving their money to me they're giving it to some schmuck they never even met! You don't see some of the looser players around anymore because they went bust faster than they would have if the casino wasn't around. It was nice when you knew where they'd be and you knew where to find them next week if they went broke this week!

Perhaps I got spoiled this year by the great games in Vegas, CT and California and I came to realize just how bad it is here. Regardless I miss the atmosphere (and easy money!) of the home games :-(.

JJNJustin · #2 08-23-2006, 11:38 PM

me too.
-j

DeadMoneyWalking · #3 08-23-2006, 11:41 PM

I feel for you man even though I feel the opposite way.

I learned how to play poker in that stinkhole Greektown and now I play at Foxwoods. As Jlo sings "makes me play a little bit stronger..."

Everything seems like a country club after you have played in Detroit [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] It was a great boot camp for poker and it is even greater that I am not coming back!

ps I heard they are having trouble with the limit games. Is it still true?

otter · #4 08-23-2006, 11:56 PM

Yeah I'll probably be in Vegas for good by the end of the year. At least that's the plan. I'll sure miss good ole Michigan though.

I haven't been to MC in a few weeks, but there usually isn't a shortage of limit games. In fact the lists are generally jam packed. I hear Greektown has had problems though

medaugh · #5 08-24-2006, 12:05 AM

I have never heard anything good about the Detroit casinos on 2+2. Which make wonder if you all have played up at Mt. Pleasent? Better than Detroit, about the same? I live close to 127 in Ohio and it is about the same drive for me to goto Soaring Eagle. What is your opinion? I have never played live and am eager for some experience.
Thanks

RyanCMU · #6 08-24-2006, 12:55 AM

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I have never heard anything good about the Detroit casinos on 2+2. Which make wonder if you all have played up at Mt. Pleasent? Better than Detroit, about the same? I live close to 127 in Ohio and it is about the same drive for me to goto Soaring Eagle. What is your opinion? I have never played live and am eager for some experience.
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Soaring Eagle isnt the greatest of rooms, 18 tables. They spread usually 3/6 LHE, 6/12 LHE, and the 1/2NL.

They have a 10/20 LHE game that will usually as well, but its not guarenteed, either is the 6/12 latley actually haha.

But if you want to play 3/6 or 1/2NL the games are generally good from my experience.

But if your looking for consistent limit games this isnt the place, as the 6/12 and 10/20 (sometimes it though gets bumped to 15/30) do not go everyday guarenteed.

otter · #7 08-24-2006, 01:26 AM

What time do they close during the week and on the weekend? The poker room isn't 24 hours is it? What's the max buyin on the 1/2NL? Do they have a 2/5NL ever?

*TT* · #8 08-24-2006, 07:04 AM

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I have never heard anything good about the Detroit casinos on 2+2.

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Although I have only visited Detroit casinos once I find your statement hard to believe, Detroit is on the bottom o my list for card rooms in the nation, I've traveled a lot and been to a lot of rooms all over, trust me when I say Detroit has it bad.

TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

TripleH68 · #9 08-24-2006, 08:54 AM

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Monday night I played at Greektown.

The only limit game going was 3/6. I asked and started an interest list for 5/10 and 10/20 that never grew to more than four players. During the course of a six hour stint at 3/6 there were three very loud arguments at the 50-100NL tables. One was a clear angle shoot where some big guy pushed and then flipped over his AA claiming some guy said call. There was a lot of shouting and swearing over about $80. Ridiculous. And a number of guys in t-shirts, sunglasses and baseball caps trying to look tough.

As for my 3/6 game, it was inhabited by the worst players on the face of the earth. I am not kidding when I say this game played like .10/.20 online. It was very loose and VERY passive. This allowed me to play for big pots and I took down a few big ones, once check-raising the field on the turn with the nut straight and they all called.

The dealers...

1) My buddy bets TT into four players on the river when a fourth club hits an ace high board. A bit of a suicide mission, but when the lady in the one seat starts tanking the dealer leans over and motions with his head. She shows him her cards and he makes a raised eyebrow face then looks back at the board and taps his fingers. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

2) Different dealer keeps commenting on the board. Some comments are in fun like "here we go again" on a monotone flop or "and the board pairs" on a turn or river. Very much 'kitchen table' poker.

3) One dealer is more intent on watching the Tiger game than the poker game. 'nuff said.

4) Another dealer complains about management. He was a fun and competent dealer and I felt was embarassed by the state of the room. He also was very unhappy about how the floor handled problems with bad seeds/players who caused trouble.

There are a few very good people working in this room. You will also find the softest 3/6 games imaginable. The chairs are very comfortable. It could be a very good room, but it is not.

Tuesday night I played at Motor City.

Motor City is so much better than Greektown right now there is no comparison. The rake is capped at $6 rather than $5, which is a killer for $3/6. I played $10/20 which always seems to have at least two tables going, one being a must move.

The atmosphere is cleaner. They have pagers when you are on the wait list, which is displayed on monitors. They run tournaments. The dealers are noticeably better than Greektown. The 10/20 game has plenty of regulars. The main game can fluctuate from loose/agg to tight/agg depending on the makeup of players.

Early in the evening I had a great seat with two LAGs and a calling station on my right. Two very good players on my left. Later in the evening one LAG and the calling station stopped donating and left the table...and I left shortly thereafter.

I have seen Motor City deal with problems better and more quickly than Greektown. The room is very cramped and I find the chairs a little uncomfortable, but the overall experience is way better than Greektown right now.

JJNJustin · #10 08-25-2006, 05:55 AM

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And a number of guys in t-shirts, sunglasses and baseball caps trying to look like the people they learned from on TV.

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I would play $50-$100max NL at Greektown everyday, if it were not for the $12 hr time charge and the ridiculously slow dealers and players.

If you go to Brantford, ON they charge $10/hr and all the players play like they are on amphetamine. There is a collective agreement to play AFAP. You would think the donks in Detroit would play this way, but they dont. They must be playing for camera time.

-J