NL100, common spot with NFD

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Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $223.70
BB: $102.35
UTG: $90.05
CO: $99.50
Hero (BTN): $108.20

Reads: <font color="blue">new to the table, and on a new computer, so no reads [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $4.00</font>, CO calls $4.00, Hero calls $4.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($13.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $12.00</font>, CO calls $12.00, Hero...

calls or raises, and why? I know it's hard to say without a read, but whats standard here?

[Spinners]

I think the standard line here is a flat call. If I had a 6 or a 10 in my hand I would raise (obv q).

[Jay Riall]

Raise is probably standard, but calling is definitely good seeing as you keep lower fds in, have position, pot is big already etc. I guess raising is only obviously better if you think they can fold a Q often.

[Spinners]

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Raise is probably standard, but calling is definitely good seeing as you keep lower fds in, have position, pot is big already etc. I guess raising is only obviously better if you think they can fold a Q often.

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I agree

[PartysOver]

i like raising, you get Tx out, some Qx out (depending on player obv) and get enough money in so that when you hit you can get stacks in

i go to $33 and fold to poosh... i then check behind on (nearly) every turn and push rivers if our hand is improved (A or d)

jay -lower fd's will stay in lol

edit/ nothing wrong with calling here either... good spot to be in

[gimmetheloot]

stacks can get in very easily with no raise.

the pot on turn will be ~50$ and hero will have 83~ behind.

OP, Im inclined to just flat it here often.

[Jay Riall]

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jay -lower fd's will stay in lol

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???

[loosbastard]

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i go to $33 and fold to poosh

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Whaaaaat? Fold to a push?

If this were HU, I'd probably just pop it...but the fact that there are possibly other FD's and straight draws, I like calling and letting them come along here.

[13_Xerxes]

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i go to $33 and fold to poosh...

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Worst play ever [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

You got position, good odds, NFD, 1 overcard. Looks an easy call.

[ama0330]

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Raise is probably standard, but calling is definitely good seeing as you keep lower fds in, have position, pot is big already etc. I guess raising is only obviously better if you think they can fold a Q often.

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CO bets 12 into 13 into 3 people on a drawy board then folds? Unpossible!

IMO FE = 0 here. If the ace is live you have 12 outs so wouldn't that make a shove just EV+ anyway?

edit: and also is preflop standard for everyone veruss unknowns, I mean I know we have position but seems kinda loose