this hand is just sick

BalugaWhale · #1 02-20-2007, 02:21 AM

UTG (23/17) raises to 35, UTG+1 3bets to 120, I call OTB w/ A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], UTG calls.

FLOP:
A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, I check thinking pot control.

TURN:
3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, I bet like 245 into a pot of like 370, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

RIVER:
4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, I.... wtf?????

dtan05 · #2 02-20-2007, 02:23 AM

nothing you can do but check right....

BobboFitos · #3 02-20-2007, 02:23 AM

you're allowed to just fold pf... or 4bet..

BalugaWhale · #4 02-20-2007, 02:27 AM

well i hate 4betting

and i dont really l ike folding

so calling was best

rebuyboy · #5 02-20-2007, 02:28 AM

check.

BalugaWhale · #6 02-20-2007, 02:36 AM

i guess the question i had is

what are they checking the river that beats me???

dtan05 · #7 02-20-2007, 02:40 AM

anything looking for a c/r, AA/KK/QQ/UTG might have a heart draw.

WellAdjusted06 · #8 02-20-2007, 02:43 AM

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i guess the question i had is

what are they checking the river that beats me???

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J,10o, QQ, KK, AA all shoves the flop, so we can rule that out.

We're ahead here 75% of the time but no sense in betting the river. We're happy with the pot the way it is.

JacksonTens · #9 02-20-2007, 03:53 AM

Firstly effective stacks and some reads, Im going to assume its 100bbs and 6max...

the call PF is fine, though it really does narrow your range [kinda like calling a 3bet cold w JJ in FR limit, which I hat FWIW]

i like the flop check, i feel the turn bet is standard

I also dont mind a river check, as what worse hands are calling? AQ,AJ,KQ? Theres just too much out there that beats you.

JT

BalugaWhale · #10 02-20-2007, 03:58 AM

a few things:
1) its not like I flatcalled cause I was like "oh shtt, they probably have the nutters fit or fold!". I flatcalled cause i had position, cause I thought it was reasonable that one of them would have a weaker ace and I might win a big pot if we both hit. basically, position was why i called. I would never call w/ AK oop like this.
2) I hate 4bet pushing cause it overreps my hand. Its a different situation in the BB when the button raises and the SB 3bet (thanks twp)

In retrospect, folding pf is fine... i guess ive just been trained to not fold AK pf. AK+position i thought could make it into a call. I guess not.

oh well, i never professed to be the shtt at poker or anything so im still here to learn, haha