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Old 04-13-2007, 08:55 AM
bibitref bibitref is offline
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Default Mute in the Small Blind

3/6 Hold'em. Small blind is in for $1 in the form of one white chip. A few limp then the small blind places a red chip with his white--without verbally announcing a raise-- in one smooth motion and clearly with no deceptive intent.

Is this a raise? If no, why? If yes, no explanation needed.
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Old 04-13-2007, 08:57 AM
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Default Re: Mute in the Small Blind

It depends...
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Old 04-13-2007, 09:21 AM
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Default Re: Mute in the Small Blind

its a CALL only, always
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Old 04-13-2007, 09:52 AM
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Default Re: Mute in the Small Blind

Call.
Same logic as the 'single oversized chip' rule.
The action is ambiguous.
When an action is ambiguous, it is ruled to be the least aggressive alternative.
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Old 04-13-2007, 11:03 AM
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Default Re: Mute in the Small Blind

He's putting in $6 and it's not one chip, how is that not a raise? How is putting in $6 when the bet is $3 ambiguous?
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Old 04-13-2007, 11:18 AM
AngusThermopyle AngusThermopyle is offline
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Default Re: Mute in the Small Blind

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He's putting in $6 and it's not one chip, how is that not a raise? How is putting in $6 when the bet is $3 ambiguous?

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He is putting one one chip. The $1 is already out there as his blind. He is only putting out one $5 chip when it is his turn to act. If he had reached and grabbed the $1, and then thrown a $1 and a $5 out, that is different. But he didn't do that.

Toss a $5 out, pause, grab his $1 and two $1's from the BB. He was just making change. Guess you have never seen that.
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Old 04-13-2007, 11:41 AM
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Default Re: Mute in the Small Blind

i disagree, this is absolutely a raise. If he puts in the amount for a raise without pulling anything back or announcing it is a raise every time.
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Old 04-13-2007, 04:50 PM
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Default Re: Mute in the Small Blind

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its a CALL only, always

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agreed unless he really is a mute
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Old 04-13-2007, 04:45 PM
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This is a call. This also shows why 3-6 should have only $1 chips in play.
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Old 04-13-2007, 07:40 PM
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Default Re: Mute in the Small Blind

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This is a call. This also shows why 3-6 should have only $1 chips in play.

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