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03-30-2007, 05:18 PM
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Re: Comment thread for abortion debate
This could be an interesting debate. Vulturesrow is definately a good candidate for the pro-life position, since he can articulate political and moral reasoning without religion.
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04-01-2007, 01:47 AM
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Re: Comment thread for abortion debate
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What kind of debate is it? Political? Moral? Subjective? (I like strawberries) [/ QUOTE ] I assumed (as did Jman) that it was "should it be legal". This is a politics forum after all, most other topics concerning it would be more appropiate for SMP.
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04-01-2007, 06:00 AM
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Re: Comment thread for abortion debate
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[ QUOTE ] What kind of debate is it? Political? Moral? Subjective? (I like strawberries) [/ QUOTE ] I assumed (as did Jman) that it was "should it be legal". This is a politics forum after all, most other topics concerning it would be more appropiate for SMP. [/ QUOTE ] So you are saying: suppose you are the president and you wanted to 'solve this problem'. This means that you first have to decide if it is a problem. And given that you're the president, what are you going to base that on?
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04-01-2007, 11:21 AM
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Re: Comment thread for abortion debate
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] What kind of debate is it? Political? Moral? Subjective? (I like strawberries) [/ QUOTE ] I assumed (as did Jman) that it was "should it be legal". This is a politics forum after all, most other topics concerning it would be more appropiate for SMP. [/ QUOTE ] So you are saying: suppose you are the president and you wanted to 'solve this problem'. This means that you first have to decide if it is a problem. And given that you're the president, what are you going to base that on? [/ QUOTE ] This has nothing to do with being President. Even in a market law situation, you still need to convince people what should or shouldn't be legal. Clearly in ACland, people will want it to murder hobos. Another way to look at this is- is it immoral to use force against those who have abortions (or carry them out). Unfortunately, I think Shake made a mistake in basically assuming that a fetus has no moral value. He clearly assumed it didn't. If it has no moral value, who cares about if its really inconvenient or only a minor inconvenience to have a child. He must either argue that it has no moral value or that although it has some moral value, it has no right to the mother. When you assume that a fetus has no moral value, there really isn't much to debate with abortion.
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03-30-2007, 06:12 PM
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Re: Comment thread for abortion debate
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This could be an interesting debate. Vulturesrow is definately a good candidate for the pro-life position, since he can articulate political and moral reasoning without religion. [/ QUOTE ] I eagerly look forward to this debate.
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03-31-2007, 07:12 AM
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Re: Comment thread for abortion debate
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[ QUOTE ] This could be an interesting debate. Vulturesrow is definately a good candidate for the pro-life position, since he can articulate political and moral reasoning without religion. [/ QUOTE ] I eagerly look forward to this debate. [/ QUOTE ] I'm working on the first post right now, although I'll probably fall asleep before posting it. Expect a argument heavy on the consequential side.
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03-31-2007, 02:36 PM
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Re: Comment thread for abortion debate
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[ QUOTE ] This could be an interesting debate. Vulturesrow is definately a good candidate for the pro-life position, since he can articulate political and moral reasoning without religion. [/ QUOTE ] I eagerly look forward to this debate. [/ QUOTE ]
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