Article ripping Kobe and Praising Lebron

[Mano]

I posted this Washington Post Article on another thread, but it was buried, and most probably won't see it. The article got a lot of play on the Dan Patrick radio show. Do you guys think Sally Jenkins is making valid points, or is she just a Kobe hater? Thoughts?

[AngusThermopyle]

Mark Kriegel's Fox Sports article on Kobe/Lebron

[aeest400]

I'm a Laker and a Kobe fan, but when Kobe refers to himself as a "leader" (which he often does) I think I usually unconsciously insert "team's best player" in its place.

[Ralph Wiggum]

I had some thoughts while skimming the article.

When talking about perimeter players, is having good court vision synonymous with being a good teammate or leader? I can't think of a distributing all-star level player who considered as not making his teammates better.

OTOH, shoot first guards/wings seem to be generally considered selfish players unless they win, like Mike.

I wonder if our view of leadership just something easily measurable as assists per game? Would the public predictably write that Kobe has become a better leader if he had good 3pt shooters around him?

[Taraz]

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I had some thoughts while skimming the article.

When talking about perimeter players, is having good court vision synonymous with being a good teammate or leader? I can't think of a distributing all-star level player who considered as not making his teammates better.

OTOH, shoot first guards/wings seem to be generally considered selfish players unless they win, like Mike.

I wonder if our view of leadership just something easily measurable as assists per game? Would the public predictably write that Kobe has become a better leader if he had good 3pt shooters around him?

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I agree with the general sentiment that you're raising. Some of the selfishness talk has to do with him being a shoot-first player.

With that said, Kobe isn't very good at relating to other people. And he actually is a very self-centered person by most accounts. I don't think he understands that he has to help his teammates improve. He works his butt off and expects everyone else to do the same. When they don't he gets angry at them instead of convincing them to work harder.

[aeest400]

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I had some thoughts while skimming the article.

When talking about perimeter players, is having good court vision synonymous with being a good teammate or leader? I can't think of a distributing all-star level player who considered as not making his teammates better.

OTOH, shoot first guards/wings seem to be generally considered selfish players unless they win, like Mike.

I wonder if our view of leadership just something easily measurable as assists per game? Would the public predictably write that Kobe has become a better leader if he had good 3pt shooters around him?

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Well, I was more or less refering to his basic leadership skills. I just don't think he relates well to people and motivates them, etc.

Edit: I wrote my post before reading Taraz's. He said what I meant to say, only a bit better.

[ThaSaltCracka]

No one wants to mention that Kobe plays in the West and Lebron plays in the East?

[andyfox]

She's probably a Kobe hater, but she makes goods points. He's an easy guy to hate. I heard him on the radio the other day, and he sounded, frankly, stoned. Irrational and exceptionally immature. Unable to speak a complete sentence that made any sense.

That said, the Lakers have three championships that would not have been won without Kobe Bryant.

[Semtex]

Retarded article, clearly biased against Kobe. She fails to mention that during the season while Kobe was busting his ass putting up huge numbers trying to get his pathetic, injury plagued team into the playoffs in a clearly superior conference, Lebron was chewing his fingernails and not giving a flying [censored]. Maybe if Kobe had the luxury of not having to do [censored] for most of the season he might have taken over in the playoffs. All this team player [censored] is so bogus. If Lebron's Cavs were in the west he WOULD be demanding to be traded after a few fruitless seasons.

[rakes.a.beach]

I felt the article was pretty heavily baised and I don't like bryant very much.

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He had an especially seamy disagreement with a young woman in Eagle, Colo., over whether he sexually assaulted her.

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I don't think she or anyone knows if kobe raped her.



Lebron is def more valuable to a team than kobe. Kobe hates his teammates, front office, coach, he hates everyone. His teammates hate him and no one plays their hearts out cuz their best player doesn't respect them.