$10 JJ facing shove and call @15/30

[Turlock]

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t15/t30
7 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: t1150
UTG+1: t1118
MP1: t1340
CO: t1835
Hero: t2870
SB: t4020
BB: t1167

Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls t30 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t45)</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls t30 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t75)</font>, SB folds, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises all-in t1167</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 calls all-in t1088</font>, Hero ???<font color="aaaaaa[/color">.

No reads as such yet,but I find that these shoves are 77-99 or similar a lot of the time,the guy who called in early position may think the same and have 2 broadway cards,can I turn down this chance to triple up?

[Beerocrat]

EZ Fold.

It's so early, and you are flipping, at best.

[Jaqrabbit]

I fold here. This is not a triple up for you, it's a double up IF you beat both of the other two - otherwise you lose half your stack. I'm not a fan of JJ after a shove and an overcall.

[Turlock]

Yeah,not a triple up,but I knew what i meant [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[HajiShirazu]

This is actually close but why did you not raise preflop, jeez.

[blowbubbles]

Agree about a raise preflop here with this stack, 4xBB, then with more action or overs on the flop, throw it away. The non-raise PF is due to playing JJ as middle pair I guess, something I do myself in the early stages.

[Turlock]

Yeah,I normally raise here pre flop,I've just been experimenting with over calling TT and JJ in the first 2 levels,which helps to keep me out of trouble early on.Is this not a good idea?

[AMT]

this is actually a little closer than most people seem to be thinking, but id likely still fold without read. How the two active players lost chips is very relevant. It also may be worth sharkscoping one or both of them in-game if possible. I'd also have raised pf the first time, and I'm not folding QQ in this spot.

[warrantofice]

I would call cause you doubled up early so you still might be on that heater. First guys got 77 other guy got the old AK your are so luck boxing it you just gotta call.

(in reality its a fold.)

[Turlock]

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this is actually a little closer than most people seem to be thinking, but id likely still fold without read. How the two active players lost chips is very relevant. It also may be worth sharkscoping one or both of them in-game if possible. I'd also have raised pf the first time, and I'm not folding QQ in this spot.

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Pokerstars have now added sharkscope to their banned list of programs and sites so you can't do that ingame anymore without receiving a nasty email from them warning you.
FWIW I did make the call and was shown over cards by both players,the guy in early position had KQs and the other guy AQ or AK,so my read was pretty much okay that I might be ahead here.I think at these small buy ins people shoving with premium pairs is quite rare and normally means AK and similar,and also 77-TT maybe.