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#1
09-04-2007, 05:51 AM
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vehn
live 30/60 5 handed
villain is vehn. this game sucks and i dont know why im in it but i am. folds to vehn in the SB and he raises, I 3bet A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] from the BB, he calls. flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] he check/calls turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] he check/raises, I call. river: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] he check, i..... 
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#4
09-04-2007, 06:06 AM
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Re: vehn
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[ QUOTE ] CHECK [/ QUOTE ] because you can't see him calling with a worse hand, or because we think he has a better hand? Would he pay off with Ax 9h? [/ QUOTE ] bzzzzzzzzzzzztttttttttttttttt.
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#6
09-04-2007, 06:15 AM
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Re: vehn
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] CHECK [/ QUOTE ] because you can't see him calling with a worse hand, or because we think he has a better hand? [/ QUOTE ] yes [/ QUOTE ] what the [censored] does have here?
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#7
09-04-2007, 06:56 AM
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Re: vehn
If this is worth value betting it would follow that we should have 3 bet the turn I think. Or is the fact that he now checks on a complete blank enough new information to make a turn non-3 bet but now river value bet correct?
Personally I would be 3 betting the turn here against a lot of my friends but its a weird line he took for sure. Also I hate free showdown raises but this is a good board for the turn 3 bet and take a free showdown unimproved line because of the hearts though he could muster a crying call with a lot I guess. Sort of interesting hand I think but it depends a lot on what you two do against each other so everything besides that is all just a decent TAG on TAG exercise. -DeathDonkey
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#8
09-04-2007, 03:15 PM
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Re: vehn
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] CHECK [/ QUOTE ] because you can't see him calling with a worse hand, or because we think he has a better hand? [/ QUOTE ] yes [/ QUOTE ] what the [censored] does have here? [/ QUOTE ] Ah x Or a better hand. Or a bluff.
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#9
09-04-2007, 05:33 PM
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Re: vehn
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] CHECK [/ QUOTE ] because you can't see him calling with a worse hand, or because we think he has a better hand? [/ QUOTE ] yes [/ QUOTE ] what the [censored] does have here? [/ QUOTE ] A5 w/ a heart. Bet/fold Never gonna make you cry, never gonna SAY goodbye.
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#10
09-04-2007, 06:03 AM
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Re: vehn
These spots against players u know and respect are always interesting. When he checks river it looks like he checkraised A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]x, but is he trapping?
Often I think u should make a decision based on what happend lately at the table.
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