Wow... did you guys see this?!?!

[JTJones]

I just saw this and it pretty much rocked my world. Really amazing stuff.
I gotta recommend everyone take a look...

web page

Love to hear you thoughts on it!

[tomdemaine]

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I just saw this and it pretty much rocked my world. Really amazing stuff.
I gotta recommend everyone take a look...

web page

Love to hear you thoughts on it!

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Nielso?

[zasterguava]

movie sucks
its like politics for idiots. i quite liked the religion stuff but considering all of its dumb and conspiracy like ruins it. I mean seriously in order to bash christianity it is not necessary to give evidence that Jesus didn't exist= not even dawkins or hitchens claim that.

as for 9/11 and the federal bank- thats just dumb [censored]

druk rant over

[mjkidd]

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movie sucks
its like politics for idiots. i quite liked the religion stuff but considering all of its dumb and conspiracy like ruins it. I mean seriously in order to bash christianity it is not necessary to give evidence that Jesus didn't exist= not even dawkins or hitchens claim that.

as for 9/11 and the federal bank- thats just dumb [censored]

druk rant over

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Hitchens doesn't think that there is any evidence that Christ ever lived. When he quotes Jesus' dialog in the bible, he will often say "and the supposed Jesus of Nazareth said..."

[slickss]

I actually thought that it was historically proven that Jesus, the man, *did* exist. His actions, beyond being your average rebel, can not be proven, though.

That reminded me of a funny clip from Family Guy.

[zasterguava]

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Hitchens doesn't think that there is any evidence that Christ ever lived. When he quotes Jesus' dialog in the bible, he will often say "and the supposed Jesus of Nazareth said..."


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I have read " God is not Great"; and he did not spend the whole book giving reasons why Jesus was made up- h gives a far more intelligent argument against religion. Dawkins has said explicitly in interviews that Jesus 'likely existed' though there is more evidence for other figures of that time.

It reminds me of 9/11 conspirators. THey would be doing are FAR better service if they acknowledged what happend and attacked the government by stating how the government took advantage of the event to execute two wars previously organised- not that the government was behind it. I think they are missing the point entirely.

[mjkidd]

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I actually thought that it was historically proven that Jesus, the man, *did* exist. His actions, beyond being your average rebel, can not be proven, though.

That reminded me of a funny clip from Family Guy.

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There isn't any direct evidence at all that a man named Jesus was executed by Pilate ~45 AD. The best that anyone can come up with is a few Romans writing stuff like "Hey, what's the deal with this Christ guy?" some years later. They could be talking about a mythological figure; none of them ever met or saw Jesus.

[CORed]

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I actually thought that it was historically proven that Jesus, the man, *did* exist. His actions, beyond being your average rebel, can not be proven, though.

That reminded me of a funny clip from Family Guy.

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There is really no contemporary (dating from the time Jesus is actually believed to have lived) evidence that he existed, and it's pretty certain that a lot of events described in the gospels did not happen. However, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. My personal opinion is that the stories about Jesus probably derived from a real person, but much exaggeration and embellishment, and quite a bit of outright fabrication got into the gospels.