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Hand posted in BBV from Pocket 5s link, where there should not be any strategy so I post it here.
However, I am intresting what you think is the best play here. Is pushing the good? PokerStars Tournament #57569491, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) Table '57569491 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button Seat 2: x_QUIXTAR_x (4420 in chips) Seat 3: ack_1969 (8075 in chips) Seat 6: jgivg (60 in chips) Seat 9: takeitdown2 (945 in chips) jgivg: posts small blind 60 and is all-in takeitdown2: posts big blind 200 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to ack_1969 [A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] x_QUIXTAR_x: calls 200 ack_1969: raises 7875 to 8075 and is all-in takeitdown2: folds x_QUIXTAR_x: calls 4220 and is all-in |
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1st of all quixtar is a regular and knows what hes doing...he wont limp trash there
with the shortstack all in he would have to lose to both and therefore can call kinda wide...maybe JJ+, AK? he could easily be trapping the cl with aa/kk which isnt bad imo if he thinks this guy will push wide edit: ...so i think the push is pretty bad |
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I like the push, he can only call with AA (KK ?) here.
[EDIT]Uh sorry, the 60 chips guy is all in so he can call pretty wide. Pushing is overkill. I like a raise to 700/800. |
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Big stack's range matters a lot. SngWiz says TT+ assuming ATC from big stack and only AA calling from small stack (for some reason it won't let me give him a 0% call range). However with big stack on 60% it's back to QQ+ and on 35+ KK+. This is without the 200 limp, since I'm actually running this problem as an UTG push from big stack and second stack in CO.
Edit: I'm talking about what the other guy can call with vs a shove here, obviously. Whether you shove in this spot as big stack has a lot to do with your opponent, but I would probably tend to raise small instead. |
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This is terrible. Ideally, you would want SB to win his all in and get some chips so you can abuse the bubble and pick up blinds. I think this is a really clear fold of just about anything.
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This is terrible. Ideally, you would want SB to win his all in and get some chips so you can abuse the bubble and pick up blinds. I think this is a really clear fold of just about anything. [/ QUOTE ] are you serious? quixtar is a very good reg, is not limping with ATC here so it is very likely the bubble will burst anyway. Pushing here is a really good move. Actually precisely for your reasons you do it with ATC, you want Quixtar to fold, grabbing blinds and limp and dtripling up the dude short. |
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Big stack's range matters a lot. SngWiz says TT+ assuming ATC from big stack and only AA calling from small stack (for some reason it won't let me give him a 0% call range). However with big stack on 60% it's back to QQ+ and on 35+ KK+. This is without the 200 limp, since I'm actually running this problem as an UTG push from big stack and second stack in CO. Edit: I'm talking about what the other guy can call with vs a shove here, obviously. Whether you shove in this spot as big stack has a lot to do with your opponent, but I would probably tend to raise small instead. [/ QUOTE ] chris, you should post more in the stt forum. do you still play sng's? |
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[ QUOTE ] Big stack's range matters a lot. SngWiz says TT+ assuming ATC from big stack and only AA calling from small stack (for some reason it won't let me give him a 0% call range). However with big stack on 60% it's back to QQ+ and on 35+ KK+. This is without the 200 limp, since I'm actually running this problem as an UTG push from big stack and second stack in CO. Edit: I'm talking about what the other guy can call with vs a shove here, obviously. Whether you shove in this spot as big stack has a lot to do with your opponent, but I would probably tend to raise small instead. [/ QUOTE ] chris, you should post more in the stt forum. do you still play sng's? [/ QUOTE ] No. I was drawn here because this thread originated with a thread in BBV calling attention to the low mean IQ of P5 posters. I play NL cash now and so should you. I might be roused from my STTF posting hiatus to post a review of that new SNG book, once I get home and get around to reading it (I've been in Europe for the last 3 months, so I haven't been posting much anywhere). |
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I like the push, he can only call with AA (KK ?) here. [EDIT]Uh sorry, the 60 chips guy is all in so he can call pretty wide. Pushing is overkill. I like a raise to 700/800. [/ QUOTE ] Considering the 60 chip shortstack is already allin, what range can x_Q call a push with that is pretty wide? Can't run the #'s at work but what if hero does push and x_Q puts him on ATC? What range can he call with profitably? What if we only put hero on 30%? |
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Mayor : considering shortie is all in , you can almost consider you are ITM and play accordingly but you have at least to beat a random hand often (the one of shortie).
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