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Old 08-13-2007, 01:24 PM
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Default razor thin vb vs keyser?

I didn't rr b/c BB was a megadonk who I wanted to keep in the hand (and I don't expect to make to much off of keyser anyway).

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.40/$0.80 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $97.20
BB: $186.60
UTG: $151.65
MP: $160.00
CO: $187.95
Hero (BTN): $257.80

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $2.80</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $2.80, 2 folds

Flop: ($6.80) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP bets $6.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $20.00</font>, MP calls $14.00

Turn: ($46.80) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, Hero checks

River: ($46.80) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $28.00</font>
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Old 08-13-2007, 01:27 PM
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Default Re: razor thin vb vs keyser?

This isn't thin at all, if he has a T he's calling you, if he has a busted draw he's folding. Only time you lose here is vs Ax of spades.
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Old 08-13-2007, 01:30 PM
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Default Re: razor thin vb vs keyser?

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This isn't thin at all, if he has a T he's calling you, if he has a busted draw he's folding. Only time you lose here is vs Ax of spades.

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Don't you think my hand looks exactly A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]X[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]?
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Old 08-13-2007, 01:31 PM
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Default Re: razor thin vb vs keyser?

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This isn't thin at all, if he has a T he's calling you, if he has a busted draw he's folding. Only time you lose here is vs Ax of spades.

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Don't you think my hand looks exactly A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]X[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]?

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if that was the case, wouldn't u consider betting the turn??
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Old 08-13-2007, 01:34 PM
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Default Re: razor thin vb vs keyser?

my line is probably bad, but dont ou think hes generally playing the nut flush draw more aggressively than this? like maybe even shoving the flop? which is why the turn A doesn't really bother me. and i would assume Keyser would value bet an A somewhere along the line too.
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Old 08-13-2007, 02:13 PM
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Default Re: razor thin vb vs keyser?

The key really is how aggro he'd play the NFD on the flop. This deep, I have doubts as to if he's shoving.

I think the ace could very well have hit his range, and you're really only beating T9s, JTs, and JJ. This is thinner than most are giving credit for imo.

I question the bet size on the river. It's small enough to induce a raise with a wide range and your hand can't really stand heat. What is your plan if raised here? I think I bet closer to $35 and fold to a raise.
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Old 08-13-2007, 04:03 PM
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Default Re: razor thin vb vs keyser?

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This isn't thin at all, if he has a T he's calling you, if he has a busted draw he's folding. Only time you lose here is vs Ax of spades.

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Don't you think my hand looks exactly A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]X[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]?

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man if this is the case how are u betting river for value?
...............maybe im retarded but.
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Old 08-13-2007, 04:51 PM
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Default Re: razor thin vb vs keyser?

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This isn't thin at all, if he has a T he's calling you, if he has a busted draw he's folding. Only time you lose here is vs Ax of spades.

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Don't you think my hand looks exactly A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]X[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]?

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man if this is the case how are u betting river for value?
...............maybe im retarded but.

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The first few responders seemed to think that this is a standard vb, I'm saying its very thin or -EV b/c my hand looks so much like Ax...
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Old 08-13-2007, 04:54 PM
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Default Re: razor thin vb vs keyser?

i think turn is a good spot to bet since you should be double barreling this card a lot. also i think it's an even clearer turn bet w/ AXss.
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Old 08-13-2007, 04:56 PM
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Default Re: razor thin vb vs keyser?

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This isn't thin at all, if he has a T he's calling you, if he has a busted draw he's folding. Only time you lose here is vs Ax of spades.

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Don't you think my hand looks exactly A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]X[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]?

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man if this is the case how are u betting river for value?
...............maybe im retarded but.

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The first few responders seemed to think that this is a standard vb, I'm saying its very thin or -EV b/c my hand looks so much like Ax...

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K i agree completely.
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