Phil Gordon Interview W/Jerry Yang for The Poker Edge Podcast 8/7/07

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During the interview Phil asked Jerry about the huge hand that occured less than 10 hands in to the FT that involved Jerry and Lee Childs. For those that aren't familiar this is how things went down...


Lee Childs raised to 720K under the gun and Jerry Yang, next to act, popped it to 2.0M. It folded back around to Childs, who made the call. On the 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] flop, Childs led out with a 3.0M bet and Jerry Yang immediately announced that he was all-in, causing Childs to look consternated. After several minutes in the tank, Childs announced that he was folding, as he showed pocket queens.

The hand recap is courtesy of the pokerpages.com live update blog coverage.

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Phil asked Jerry what he had and Jerry first replied back with the question of "what do you think I had?" Phil answered back that he thought Jerry had the Ace high flush draw. Jerry then answered the original question and said that he had pocket Jacks.

Here is the link to the podcast if anyone wants to listen to the whole interview.

The Poker Edge on ESPNRadio.com

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I have said this to virtually everyone here and blogged about it a few times. Lee Child's laydown will go down as the worst lay down in televised poker history. Literally nothing fit for him to lay down that hand.

If you could compare the WSOP to boxing you might see a parallel. The smaller weight classes are where the skilled players play and the WSOP is where the heavyweights or less skilled players play.

To me the best 2 shows on TV are High Stakes Poker and the WSOP main event for 2 completely different reasons. Certainly the consumers have less interest in poker these days but when they do they would rather see unskilled opponents over skilled opponents.

As much as we may not like it, that is fact.

IMO this years final table will be the best in recent years.

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I have said this to virtually everyone here and blogged about it a few times. Lee Child's laydown will go down as the worst lay down in televised poker history. Literally nothing fit for him to lay down that hand.

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I play almost exclusively limit, however it seemed to me that given the strong PF reraise and then insta-push/raise on the flop bet, that it could have been very possible for Yang to be holding AA/KK...his actions seemed to be in line with those hands (at least to me).

Even if he was playing "wildly" up to that point, I think Childs has to consider the very real possibility of Yang having hit a legit monster on that occasion, am I wrong?

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I have said this to virtually everyone here and blogged about it a few times. Lee Child's laydown will go down as the worst lay down in televised poker history. Literally nothing fit for him to lay down that hand.

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I play almost exclusively limit, however it seemed to me that given the strong PF reraise and then insta-push/raise on the flop bet, that it could have been very possible for Yang to be holding AA/KK...his actions seemed to be in line with those hands (at least to me).

Even if he was playing "wildly" up to that point, I think Childs has to consider the very real possibility of Yang having hit a legit monster on that occasion, am I wrong?

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If it was the first or second hand, I probably would have laid down QQ also. But based on the "every other hand, I'll raise" strategy that Jerry had shown so far, I would have paid him off 100% of the time with QQ.

After I got to see some of his other hands later in the broadcast (A9 call against Lee although he was right), J10 call against Kravchenko, I was "certain" Jerry had 10s or Js in the Childs hand and he went all in so fast because he thought his hand was good! (OMG, I have an overpair!)

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Jerry seems like a really nice guy. But yeah, anyway. That laydown, indeed, is going to KILL Lee Childs if Jerry did have pockets jacks. And it's just like what everyone has said, seeing as it definitely will be on TV, what reason would Jerry have to lie? And the logic backs up the move too, to an extent. Bit of a spoiler here as far as the broadcast goes but Jerry said he put his opponent on overcards, AQ/AK you know and that's a decent read imo based on the preflop action. Then again, maybe I'm dead wrong, and maybe it's hard to judge anything seeing as it was early at the final table and perhaps that was affecting play, obviously if that was the case, on Lee Child's side. Maybe he would just call with kings to see if an ace flopped out there, maybe he would have called with AQ/AK to see if the same happened where he could play accordingly. I think pocket queens is a blind spot maybe for Yang's jacks, assuming it's all true...I mean, while we see how Childs played it, it's reasonable to assume someone would be more aggressive with kings or aces, but queens do drop a bit, as a hand to call with, see a flop with, then run with. Unless he flopped a set or something that flop couldn't be a whole lot better for Childs but yeah, Yang's insta all-in is pretty basic, again, imo. Two times this has happened now, on notable hands, with Yang and Mortensen with his AQ. When someone does that it seems like the thought process goes (same for me when/if I do it), "I have the best hand here, there are some drawing possibilities, this pot is big enough, let's end it right here," and the best way to do that, more than likely, will be to make a big bet, as often happens, in this instance making an opponent muck a superior hand. Jerry had to have thought he had the best hand, and it's hard to imagine him making the move with overcards there, but then again, he was playing very aggressively and that continued to be the case as the final table went on. So, what can Lee put Jerry on? May be difficult to put him on overcards, overcards with a flush draw is conceivable, then jacks comes into mind which is something like a blind spot to queens as well. Gotta be afraid of kings or aces with such a move, it's legitamate to put your opponent on overcards with a flush draw too, or an overpair in general that may be worse than queens. The last option turned out to be the case, Lee made the wrong laydown, it is going to suck to see this on TV for him, but Jerry's reraise range of someone coming in UTG like that would surely have to be fairly small, then on that flop with Jerry's next move it really does seem like tens, jacks, kings, or aces? Idk, probably didn't say anything that hasn't already been said there, may have been going in circles, but I posted it anyway. Oh well.

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I have said this to virtually everyone here and blogged about it a few times. Lee Child's laydown will go down as the worst lay down in televised poker history. Literally nothing fit for him to lay down that hand.

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I play almost exclusively limit, however it seemed to me that given the strong PF reraise and then insta-push/raise on the flop bet, that it could have been very possible for Yang to be holding AA/KK...his actions seemed to be in line with those hands (at least to me).

Even if he was playing "wildly" up to that point, I think Childs has to consider the very real possibility of Yang having hit a legit monster on that occasion, am I wrong?

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You definitley aren't wrong. It isn't out of the realm of possibility that he had AA or KK I just still think it's really tough to fold QQ there, that's all. He said in the interview that after Childs called his re-raise and then he led out with a bet on the flop that the only way he felt he could win the hand is that if he shoved all-in on him and got him to believe that he had Aces or Kings. It worked.

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Yes this QQ laydown is absolutely ridiculous. Playing AA or KK like this is pretty absurd and I'm almost positive that Yang wouldn't play 'em like that.

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yeah, I see your point in calling given that Yang could have been on almost anything due to his recent wild play ...probably more often than not, Childs has him beat. Just don't know if I'd go so far as to say it's one of the worst laydowns ever. Also, I find it interesting that in the interview he claims to have resorted to a semi-bluff to win the pot...I hadn't heard that.

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I have said this to virtually everyone here and blogged about it a few times. Lee Child's laydown will go down as the worst lay down in televised poker history. Literally nothing fit for him to lay down that hand.

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I play almost exclusively limit, however it seemed to me that given the strong PF reraise and then insta-push/raise on the flop bet, that it could have been very possible for Yang to be holding AA/KK...his actions seemed to be in line with those hands (at least to me).

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doesn't justify it at all IMO. if lee is going to lay down QQ to an all-in on that flop, based most largely on the PF reraise, he shouldn't have called the reraise to begin with

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p.s. i'm not remotely suggesting he should have folded preflop. i'm suggesting it's retarded not to call the flop