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03-08-2007, 10:36 PM
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Apathy style theory question SSNL version - Checking flop in the blind
6-max. 100BB stacks. You are the BB. Someone (not the SB) raises and you call.
How much, if any, EV are you sacrificing by always 100% of the time checking the flop? 
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03-08-2007, 10:39 PM
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Re: Apathy style theory question SSNL version - Checking flop in the b
i check this flop pretty damn close to 100% of the time.
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03-08-2007, 10:44 PM
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Re: Apathy style theory question SSNL version - Checking flop in the b
i dont see how you could say always 100% of the time.. like if you spike a set, or two pair, on a draw heavy board, how do you not lead out.
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03-08-2007, 10:46 PM
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Re: Apathy style theory question SSNL version - Checking flop in the b
game dependant
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03-08-2007, 10:47 PM
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Re: Apathy style theory question SSNL version - Checking flop in the b
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game dependant [/ QUOTE ] This answer is as useless and not the point of this type of thread as is possible. The idea is to discuss the kinds of things it depends on, yo.
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03-08-2007, 10:47 PM
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Re: Apathy style theory question SSNL version - Checking flop in the b
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i dont see how you could say always 100% of the time.. like if you spike a set, or two pair, on a draw heavy board, how do you not lead out. [/ QUOTE ] If villain cbets 100% of the time, leading out is terrible independent of your holding and the board.
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03-09-2007, 05:34 AM
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Re: Apathy style theory question SSNL version - Checking flop in the b
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[ QUOTE ] i dont see how you could say always 100% of the time.. like if you spike a set, or two pair, on a draw heavy board, how do you not lead out. [/ QUOTE ] If villain cbets 100% of the time, leading out is terrible independent of your holding and the board. [/ QUOTE ] Actually thats exactly what one my posts was about and the end result of the thread seems to be that even when someone c-bets 100% of the time you should still lead some hands.
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03-08-2007, 10:49 PM
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Re: Apathy style theory question SSNL version - Checking flop in the b
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i dont see how you could say always 100% of the time.. like if you spike a set, or two pair, on a draw heavy board, how do you not lead out. [/ QUOTE ] If theres a maniac who will bluff his stack away, leading would be a big mistake.
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03-08-2007, 10:53 PM
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Re: Apathy style theory question SSNL version - Checking flop in the b
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- I have a marginal made hand or a weak draw and I think my opponents are weak [/ QUOTE ] How do you know he's weak when all he's done is raising PF? If he's weak, why not c/r or stop 'n go? Ship the free money...
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#10
03-08-2007, 10:57 PM
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Re: Apathy style theory question SSNL version - Checking flop in the b
Master, no, its not useless, its true. This is about as broad of a topic as you can say, and there is NO possible way to classify the amount of EV lost by never leading. However, what I meant is it depends on your own game, not the flow of the game, how much you'll lose. A good player oop will lose less, a bad player will lose more cuz his ability to manipulate the pot size, and therefore his EV, will be lower. A good player would be able to take this singular line and using bet sizing manipulate the pot.
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