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Old 11-11-2007, 06:20 PM
SuperSnort SuperSnort is offline
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in this hand i pretty damn sure he has heart draw and probably AA, is there any point putting out river bet, small bet for value? i am pretty sure answer is no, but just want this clarified

PokerStars Game #13181765051: Omaha Pot Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/11/11 - 17:17:57 (ET)
Table 'Eri II' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: stonewal ($460.40 in chips)
Seat 2: CKOKE4ME ($226.50 in chips)
Seat 3: gs08bjohnson ($200 in chips)
Seat 4: poyraz123 ($106.90 in chips)
Seat 5: Snort4eva ($499.85 in chips)
Seat 6: LiqGen ($332.45 in chips)
Snort4eva: posts small blind $1
LiqGen: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Snort4eva [8d Jd Qd 7c]
stonewal: folds
CKOKE4ME: calls $2
gs08bjohnson: raises $7 to $9
poyraz123: folds
Snort4eva: calls $8
LiqGen: folds
CKOKE4ME: calls $7
*** FLOP *** [8h 2h Qs]
Snort4eva: checks
CKOKE4ME: checks
gs08bjohnson: bets $22
Snort4eva: calls $22
CKOKE4ME: folds
*** TURN *** [8h 2h Qs] [6s]
Snort4eva: bets $70
gs08bjohnson: calls $70
*** RIVER *** [8h 2h Qs 6s] [7s]
Snort4eva: checks
gs08bjohnson: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Snort4eva: shows [8d Jd Qd 7c] (two pair, Queens and Eights)
gs08bjohnson: mucks hand
Snort4eva collected $210 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $213 | Rake $3
Board [8h 2h Qs 6s 7s]
Seat 1: stonewal folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: CKOKE4ME folded on the Flop
Seat 3: gs08bjohnson mucked [7h Ah Ts 8c]
Seat 4: poyraz123 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Old 11-11-2007, 06:55 PM
wazz wazz is offline
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Default Re: just a question i want answering

If you're sure about it, then do it, he may not call but it has the added benefit of him not being able to see your hand.
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Old 11-11-2007, 08:25 PM
BadBenOni BadBenOni is offline
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Default Re: just a question i want answering

maybe some value,
if he has AA he might put you on a flush draw.

a bet deterrs a bluff and makes it easier to fold a raise.

but its borderline, checking is standard.
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Old 11-11-2007, 08:27 PM
Waffleticket Waffleticket is offline
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Default Re: just a question i want answering

I would say if he is a bluffer and you don't really want to check call a small bet is a good idea.
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Old 11-11-2007, 11:47 PM
crashwhips crashwhips is offline
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Default Re: just a question i want answering

I think it's best to check to induce the bluff here and then call down, assuming you don't have a read that he never or rarely bluffs. If your opponent is an infrequent bluffer (and preferably, is a big call station), then a half-pot or so blocking bet is good.
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Old 11-12-2007, 10:07 AM
Perestroika Perestroika is offline
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Default Re: just a question i want answering

AA hands are not turning their hands into bluffs.
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Old 11-12-2007, 02:45 PM
gordo16 gordo16 is offline
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Default Re: just a question i want answering

If you put him on AA a check has more value in that he may try to bluff the str8 cards. Also, if you are going to check/call the flop and then lead the turn when a blank hits, I think that you may as well put a check/raise in on the flop and look to get much more of your stack in on the turn, since you do after all put him on the draw.
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