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NL 1/2 - Turned Nutz - trap or push?
Villain is a 17/13/3 Reg., not much of a history...
Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter) SB: $559.44 BB: $180.52 UTG: $249.45 MP: $200.00 Hero (CO): $202.55 BTN: $199.00 Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players) UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $7.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24.00</font>, 3 folds, MP calls $17.00 Flop: ($51) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players) MP checks, Hero checks Turn: ($51) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">MP bets $40.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero... |
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Re: NL 1/2 - Turned Nutz - trap or push?
Bet the flop. Raise the turn.
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Re: NL 1/2 - Turned Nutz - trap or push?
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Bet the flop. Raise the turn. [/ QUOTE ] Why do you need to bet this flop 100% [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] I am mixing this up. |
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Re: NL 1/2 - Turned Nutz - trap or push?
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[ QUOTE ] Bet the flop. Raise the turn. [/ QUOTE ] Why do you need to bet this flop 100% [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] I am mixing this up. [/ QUOTE ] It's favorable for our range, and we aren't likely to get bluff raised here, or called by much less than a Q. We can also probably take a free card if called and we miss the turn. Definately raise that turn. I highly doubt he fires the river with anything that doesn't call a raise on this turn. |
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Re: NL 1/2 - Turned Nutz - trap or push?
I would just call the turn and raise the river... he will have to pay you off if he bets the river... If you raise the turn and he doesn't hav emuch of a hand he will fold..
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Re: NL 1/2 - Turned Nutz - trap or push?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Bet the flop. Raise the turn. [/ QUOTE ] Why do you need to bet this flop 100% [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] I am mixing this up. [/ QUOTE ] It's favorable for our range, and we aren't likely to get bluff raised here, or called by much less than a Q... [/ QUOTE ] My thought was, that this flop hits his range pretty hard. He is a tight player, calling a RR oop. So a reasonable range for him would be like TT+/AQ+, of which the only hands we fold out that beat us are likely JJ/AK. In addition I don't think we get bluffed too often on turn, as I may very well have a strong hand on this flop and still check behind. This Flop is as dry as can be for his range. |
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Re: NL 1/2 - Turned Nutz - trap or push?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Bet the flop. Raise the turn. [/ QUOTE ] Why do you need to bet this flop 100% [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] I am mixing this up. [/ QUOTE ] It's favorable for our range, and we aren't likely to get bluff raised here, or called by much less than a Q. We can also probably take a free card if called and we miss the turn. [/ QUOTE ] Also, i feel checking that flop, is more a sign of strenth, than weakness. Checking after an OOP preflop reraise, is more often a flopped top set, even when checking in position. His turn bet is an easy raise, it seems to me he hit hard, and could easily have been planning for a checkraise on flop. I raise him to 95, comitting him to the pot. If he's bluffing, he is probably shutting down after just one call, so raise is by far the better solution. Also, regarding a flop c-bet, i would do this all day long, as the flop doesn't hit you that hard and with your reraise, having taken over initiative in the hand, you usualy fold out small pairs and many other hands that actually beat AK. Had you been deep, i could make a case for checking the flop, but as said before, it narrows your range and makes hero calls easier (nuts or air). The idea of checking, is ofcourse to let him hit his 2nd pair/set vs your nuts and hope he cannot let the hand down, as most players would c-bet that flop w AK. |
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Re: NL 1/2 - Turned Nutz - trap or push?
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[ QUOTE ] Bet the flop. Raise the turn. [/ QUOTE ] Why do you need to bet this flop 100% [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] I am mixing this up. [/ QUOTE ] Llop check is fine considering his preflop range. I like overshoving the turn as i m pretty sure u r gonna get call by all the hands he is raising with but bluffs (which are less tha 10% imo)also u don t want a scared card to freeze the action on river. |
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Re: NL 1/2 - Turned Nutz - trap or push?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Bet the flop. Raise the turn. [/ QUOTE ] Why do you need to bet this flop 100% [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] I am mixing this up. [/ QUOTE ] Llop check is fine considering his preflop range. I like overshoving the turn as i m pretty sure u r gonna get call by all the hands he is raising with but bluffs (which are less tha 10% imo)also u don t want a scared card to freeze the action on river. [/ QUOTE ] Shoving is pretty much a potsized raise. And that's what I did. My thinking was that a lower raise gives my hand away even more. A shove *might* get interpreted as kinda semibluff. But in hindsight I don't like my play, as a set felts whatever I do and I'm likely to extract more value from 1 pair hands and bluffs by flatcalling the turn and using my pos. on river. He thought forever, typed "AK is good" and folded. |
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Re: NL 1/2 - Turned Nutz - trap or push?
Iffy on C-betting it, I would because im too aggressive for my own good, but the turn is easily a raise and just hope to god hes got QJ QT or K9 or somethin donkish and pays you. His PF call makes me wanna think hes got QK QJ atleast or hese a super donk so you should be making some decent money here.
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