8 outs. Do I need 5 to 1?

[pgjcbsn]

My first inclination was I was getting nowhere near 5 to 1 But with two all-in there's a good chance I end the betting with a call giving me two shots at making my straight.

PartyPoker Regular Tournament, Big Blind is t (10 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t2680)
UTG+1 (t2406)
Hero (t5858)
MP2 (t2747)
MP3 (t3610)
CO+1 (t4226)
CO (t4880)
Button (t305)
SB (t3088)
BB (t2840)

Preflop: Hero is in MP1 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls t60, UTG+1 calls t60, Hero calls t60, MP2 calls t60, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="red">Button raises to t305</font>, SB calls t275, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to t490</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, Hero calls t490, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, SB calls t245

Flop: (t2045) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets t2130</font>, <font color="gray">Hero ?

[footnbaseball]

Since the betting would be over and you get to see both cards for free, you need about 2.5 to 1. You still aren't getting right odds, and even if you hit the straight someone may get a flush. I fold.

[illegit]

Fold preflop. Seriously... fold preflop. No, really.

Else, fold flop.

[pgjcbsn]

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Fold preflop. Seriously... fold preflop. No, really.

Else, fold flop.

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You've got to get in there and splash around some, don't you?

[footnbaseball]

I really don't mind the preflop call, because it's such a small reraise, and it's really easy to outplay someone when you know they have a big pair.

[illegit]

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I really don't mind the preflop call, because it's such a small raise, and it's really easy to outplay someone when you know they have a big pair.

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[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img].. small raise? He had to put in 500 chips preflop when the blinds are 30/60.

[footnbaseball]

I edited it, I meant reraise

[illegit]

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Fold preflop. Seriously... fold preflop. No, really.

Else, fold flop.

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You've got to get in there and splash around some, don't you?

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Sometimes, yes. Those times being when you don't have to call a big raise and a re-raise.

The limp is OK, but after the raises you simply can't continue profitably.

[nath]

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Fold preflop. Seriously... fold preflop. No, really.

Else, fold flop.

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You've got to get in there and splash around some, don't you?

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Yes, but not here. Fold preflop. Really. Take it from me.

[Winwood]

I'm OK with the limp, but with a raise and a limp-reraise how can you call preflop?

And the way you play it you have to fold - even if hit you could lose to a flush or a boat since UTG has AA [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]