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Villain is 31/17/2.2 over only 65 hands.
Question is, aren't we behind in these spots more often than we're ahead? Board is not overly drawy, only 76 for OESD might be possible but is villain calling with a SC PF here? Villain is rather aggressive, so KK-JJ would be reraised PF here. That leaves out only TT,99 which might only call here but not maybe not raise...Hate these spots and seriously thought about folding this on the turn. Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) SB ($46.35) BB ($52.90) UTG ($55.65) UTG+1 ($48.45) Hero ($61) MP2 ($46.20) CO ($48.25) Button ($14.55) Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, MP2 calls $2, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>. Flop: ($4.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3.5</font>, MP2 calls $3.50. Turn: ($11.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $7</font>, Hero calls $7. River: ($25.75) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $20</font>, Hero ? |
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I beat him into the pot on the river.
If the numbers 31/17/2.2/65 are at all representative, this guy is way LAG. He floats this flop with T high. There's pretty much a billion hands he can have on the river (including a pair of Kings). This is an insta-call. |
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Why did you checked the turn? I think turn check triggered the action - he may think his TT/99 are good. Also he playing sets same way and maybe he smelled weakness and decided to bluff. I would bet out this turn to figure out where we are.
As played, I would call the river. You may see TT, 99, JT diamonds, set here. |
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villain's range is quite wide and you are ahead of a lot of it
value bet turn, value bet river |
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Cause I'm either WA or WB so no need to bloat the pot here, especially OOP. Plus my feeling told me chances I am behind here are bigger than that I'm still ahead.
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What is WA and WB
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Way ahead or way behind.
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Folding the turn?? Are you nuts>> seriously, if you thought you were behind, then you =just check call to showdown. I wouldnt be worried at all, and if you are behind, its not like you called an all in or push or anything.
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No, I'm not nuts. When I think I'm behind here folding on the turn is the only thing that really makes sense. What would c/c achieve here? If I think I'm ahead than I'll def go with rentons point of view here, that means betting turn and betting river for value if not raised.
Seriously mce86, how can c/c here be a good or default line? And no, I did not call a push, but villain managed to get in more than 2/3 of effective stacks, so saying we did not call an AI is, in terms of pot size, only a small achievement. Edit: I'm a pretty drunk right now but I'm really happy how this discussion turned out! Sorry to mce86 in case I've been rude or something and thanks to everyone else for your participation so far! |
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imo on turn its bet > c/c > c/f
imo on river (assuming you bet turn) its b/f > c/f > c/c |
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