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Old 04-20-2006, 06:42 PM
Small Stakes Small Stakes is offline
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Default Why M is Overrated

Call me old fashion, but I still think the # of Big Blinds in your stack is more important than your M. Why? Because it correlates more closely with your folding equity which is the grandaddy of them all in terms of importance.

- If the blinds are 200-400 50 ante at a 10 person table and your stack is 1800. Your M is under 2, but you still have 4.5x time the blinds and some folding equity. Many people (correctly or not) consider the size of the raise as a primary decision factor. Also, many good players will pass up a positive CEV opportunity if it will kill their fold equity. The fact that the size of the raise is a primary factor to consider demonstrates its importance.

- If your stack is higher, your primary consideration should be where you stand after paying the blinds, # of hands until blinds. If the blinds are going up factor this in. If you can still buy folds there is no need to panic. (Regardless of M)

To push based on M leaves a signifcant amount of information out of the decision. If you only knew M, or # of Big Blinds, without a doubt the person in the latter case would be able more accurately predict how often the BB will fold.

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Old 04-20-2006, 06:52 PM
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Default Re: Why M is Overrated

# of BB is always = to 1.5 M, so what difference does it make? If you guide yourself by one number, the other number is always a factor of it.

What you're saying is almost like saying, "it's not how many dimes you have, it's how many quarters you have, that matters".
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Old 04-20-2006, 06:53 PM
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M is based off the number of big blinds. WTF are you talking about?
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Old 04-20-2006, 06:55 PM
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Default Re: Why M is Overrated

well there are antes sometimes, so it's not 1.5 times bb always. I kinda see what the OP is saying, but it doesn't really matter. Just use what works best in your mind.
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Old 04-20-2006, 06:56 PM
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omg post of the year... poker genius!
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Old 04-20-2006, 06:55 PM
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Default Re: Why M is Overrated

???

1800 / (200 + 400 + 50) = 2.76, first of all.

2nd, your argument makes no sense, I am sorry.
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Old 04-20-2006, 06:59 PM
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No....
First of all:

1800 / (200 + 400 + 10 X 50) = 1.64


Second of all this is still a stupid argument. M and number of BB's are directly related to each other.
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Old 04-20-2006, 07:08 PM
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M is important because the antes are constantly whittling away your stack. You need to pick up one pot every round to stay afloat.

Not taking the antes into consideration is a big mistake. If you don't, you will probably let your stack get whittled shorter than you should.

I mean... this is silly. Not factoring in the antes is a fundamental mistake.
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Old 04-20-2006, 07:29 PM
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Default Re: Why M is Overrated

[ QUOTE ]
M is important because the antes are constantly whittling away your stack. You need to pick up one pot every round to stay afloat.

Not taking the antes into consideration is a big mistake. If you don't, you will probably let your stack get whittled shorter than you should.

I mean... this is silly. Not factoring in the antes is a fundamental mistake.

[/ QUOTE ]

ditto
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Old 04-20-2006, 07:35 PM
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