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QQ against massive donk
opponent is 72/36/1.6 over 47 hands and he has a fold to cb of 0% over this samplesize.
Don't really know how to play this, he will call with worse hands if I bet but I wont be able to fire a 2nd barrel on the turn and he will bet out and take it down..? I call the flop and fold the turn. The turn doesn't change anything but I feel it's quite possible he just took a stab at the flop after I had shown weakness. I could c/r the flop? thoughts? Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter) Hero (SB): $279.55 BB: $200.00 UTG: $186.60 CO: $150.05 BTN: $234.24 Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players) UTG folds, CO calls $2.00, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $10.00</font>, BB folds, CO calls $8.00 Flop: ($22) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players) Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $12.00</font>, Hero calls $12.00 Turn: ($46) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $30.00</font>, Hero folds Pot Size: $76.00 |
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Re: QQ against massive donk
cbet flop for value
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Re: QQ against massive donk
he calls and turn is brick.. now what? If I check to him, he will most def make a bet.
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Re: QQ against massive donk
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he calls and turn is brick.. now what? If I check to him, he will most def make a bet. [/ QUOTE ] You bet again since he has 0% cb folding stats. |
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Re: QQ against massive donk
I cbet the flop.
Edit: Read the hand wrong, thought we were IP. |
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Re: QQ against massive donk
Check-call-lead-turn may be viable.
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Re: QQ against massive donk
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Check-call-lead-turn may be viable. [/ QUOTE ] Unless you check raise the flop, checking shows weakness that this donk will take advantage of. |
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Re: QQ against massive donk
I would call the turn bet as well, fold to a real river bet.
I think a lot of lines work in this spot. Bet flop, bet or ck/cl turn. ck/cl flop, donk turn. Against somoene who seems this loose, I probably try hard to get to showdown. |
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Re: QQ against massive donk
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I would call the turn bet as well, fold to a real river bet. I think a lot of lines work in this spot. Bet flop, bet or ck/cl turn. ck/cl flop, donk turn. Against somoene who seems this loose, I probably try hard to get to showdown. [/ QUOTE ] Against this type of maniacs if you cbet the flop you have to be prepared to bet the turn (assuming the turn card was relatively safe) as well. Since you are OOP, you cbet, bet turn and give up on river if you don't improve or he bets a serious amount. If you were IP I'd check behind on the flop to keep the pot small and be able to call his turn and river bets. |
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Re: QQ against massive donk
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Against this type of maniacs if you cbet the flop you have to be prepared to bet the turn (assuming the turn card was relatively safe) as well. [/ QUOTE ] I disagree. Against a villain who: a. Always calls a c-bet b. Will always bet the turn if you check it to him How can we extract the most value? If he calls everything on flop, bets everything on turn, then bet flop and ck/cl turn is the best line (If I'd seen Kimpan's followup, I would have posted that the first time). Firing again on the turn gets him to call with all the stuff that beats us and fold a lot of the crap that does not... |
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