$225: KK, TP pairs board

darinvg · #1 11-01-2007, 09:56 AM

Unknown villain.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) TightPoker converter

Button (t1455)
SB (t1480)
BB (t1675)
UTG (t2970)
UTG+1 (t1490)
MP1 (t1420)
Hero (t1660)
CO (t1350)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls t30, 2 folds, Hero raises to t120, 4 folds, UTG calls t90.

Flop: (t285) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets t210, UTG calls t210.

Turn: (t705) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets t690, Hero?

Niggel · #2 11-01-2007, 10:30 AM

I guess I'd fold...
Looks like a donkish move, but often he will have at least OESD + FD. Stinks so horrible like a 9 [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Luisgallo · #3 11-01-2007, 10:53 AM

Rationally I would say fold, this smells like set to me, but 88 plays like this.

I am pretty sure it is one of those spots that I end up pushing and getting called by a set just to insult myself saying: "You knew it why did you do it?".

TruFloridaGator · #4 11-01-2007, 11:02 AM

This is really though. I don't believe such a donkish psb is a 9 here. Still looks like a combo draw/great semi-bluff or maybe even TT.

Chipchucker5 · #5 11-01-2007, 11:29 AM

Do you know how villain doubled up? I don't see how he'd have a 9 in his hand in the first place...A9, T9? I'm thinking more like medium pairs like 88 and TT. I'm getting it in against an unknown.

sence25 · #6 11-01-2007, 11:34 AM

Why would villain bet the turn so big with a 9?
Seems strange.
I think this is a draw way too often to fold..

fluorescenthippo · #7 11-01-2007, 03:21 PM

i agree with chipchucker and little john completly

suzzer99 · #8 11-01-2007, 03:41 PM

I would just like to take this opportunity to vent about villians that hit their straight on the turn, + they still have a flush draw from the flop, and they open shove like 6x pot into my overpair on the turn. And get paid of course. WTF is that? It's not like they're scared of the flush hitting. Sheesh.

/possibly-related rant

Little John · #9 11-01-2007, 11:41 AM

i'm pushing here. looks a ton like a combo draw.

Luisgallo · #10 11-01-2007, 12:11 PM

Why is everybody not mentioning a possible set?
As i said in my post before I think it's the most likely holding for villain.
On a general note I noticed that this forum tend to underestimate sets while a limp/call UTG is almost always a mid pair rather then suited connectors.

I really doubt villain is commiting that early with 88 here and TT wants a cheap showdown.