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Live 10/20 NL Switching Gears
Live 10/20 NL
7 handed Game is running a touch loose HERO in BB SB 6800 (Deep-stack LAG. Good player) BB 1200 (unknown) HERO (CO) 2200 (Have been playing tight. Getting some respect) HERO 7s9s Open Raises to 80 SB Calls BB Calls Flop (3s 8c 5h) SB Checks BB Checks HERO bets 180 SB Folds BB Calls Turn (Ts) BB Leads for 200 HERO REALLLLLY wants to push here. Effective push is 800-ish. I effectively Rep a lot of hands I "could" have here, and have a great draw. Thoughts? |
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Re: Live 10/20 NL Switching Gears
You're getting a very good price to just call here. You stack him when he has a strong hand or decides to fire a second barrel bluff and you get there on the river. You also probably have a profitable bluff if he checks the river and you've missed. The river should go well for us, no reason to stick it in on the turn.
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Re: Live 10/20 NL Switching Gears
ike,
Are you folding any non spade T+ on the river if he bets and shoving the opposite? Also, what if he throws a blocking bet on the river? |
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Re: Live 10/20 NL Switching Gears
ike,
I def. agree with merely calling the turn when villain has me covered with my stack size. I seem to get fuzzy in spots like this. When do I cash in my FE with cards to come? Pushing the turn > bluffing the whiffed river? |
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Re: Live 10/20 NL Switching Gears
i would shove here
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Re: Live 10/20 NL Switching Gears
effective push isn't 800ish if you started the hand with 2200ish... neway it's player dependent normally but vs unknowns I call here and call blank river because I expect him to be betting out a worse pair or some sort of draw/float which often bluffs the riv. Raising is tough vs an unknown because with his stack I'd say you'll often get shoved on and be getting good pot odds, and you wunna draw to ur hand cheap.
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Re: Live 10/20 NL Switching Gears
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effective push isn't 800ish if you started the hand with 2200ish... neway it's player dependent normally but vs unknowns I call here and call blank river because I expect him to be betting out a worse pair or some sort of draw/float which often bluffs the riv. Raising is tough vs an unknown because with his stack I'd say you'll often get shoved on and be getting good pot odds, and you wunna draw to ur hand cheap. [/ QUOTE ] and i don't bet the flop. |
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Re: Live 10/20 NL Switching Gears
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and i don't bet the flop. [/ QUOTE ] Why? I think this bet is much more +EV than simply going for the free shot at the gutter... I could see it being close, except for this reason: [ QUOTE ] (Have been playing tight. Getting some respect) [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: Live 10/20 NL Switching Gears
sry I'm retarded disregard my last post about questioning effective stacks, anyway, looks like a good time to shove- mite as well probably make him pay for his draws
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Re: Live 10/20 NL Switching Gears
You got the nuts, shove!
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