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Ivey vs. Corey Pavin golf bet
Discussed on the 2nd episode of Poker After Dark by Hellmuth, Sheiky, and Huck.
The bet: $10k per hole. The rules: Ivey plays at TPC Summerlin (Vegas course that he frequents) from the reds...forward-most tees...or ladies' if you're non-pc [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. Corey plays from the tips, or black tees. I thought I caught that Corey would play a different course, but not sure about that. Anyhoo, Ivey scrambles with himself, meaning he gets to hit each shot 2-3 times (not sure how many) and take the best ball. Pavin plays straight up. From the discussion, Hellmuth implied that Ivey was worse than a 15-handicap. For what it's worth, Sheiky and Hellmuth said they'd bet Pavin. Huck said they were out of their minds. Who's your $$ on assuming Ivey is a 15-handicap? How about 10 or 20 handicap? P.S. Most of us have seen footage of Ivey playing golf. He's improved big time from 3 years ago at the American Poker Championship, but still ain't pretty. P.S. Negreanu says he's the best putter he's ever seen (from his forum). |
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Re: Ivey vs. Corey Pavin golf bet
Theres a BIIIIG difference between getting to hit each shot 2 times, and getting to hit each shot 3 times. I find it hard to imagine anyone with a handicap below 30 would lose with 3 shots.
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Re: Ivey vs. Corey Pavin golf bet
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Theres a BIIIIG difference between getting to hit each shot 2 times, and getting to hit each shot 3 times. I find it hard to imagine anyone with a handicap below 30 would lose with 3 shots. [/ QUOTE ] Absolutely correct about the importance of whether it's 2 or 3. I question, though, whether a +30 is capable of winning. At +15 (usually breaks 90), Ivey is capable of hitting every shot he needs. Not consistently in a regular round, but mulligans ("do-overs") make it a whole new game. Pavin's not long enough off the tee to give him much advantage. Accurate and consistent, yes. He'll put his wedge shots closer, usually. Just-off and/or around the green shots will be major factors in outcome. Putting, time and time and time again will (as usual in golf) decide more than just a few holes. |
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Re: Ivey vs. Corey Pavin golf bet
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Discussed on the 2nd episode of Poker After Dark by Hellmuth, Sheiky, and Huck. The bet: $10k per hole. The rules: Ivey plays at TPC Summerlin (Vegas course that he frequents) from the reds...forward-most tees...or ladies' if you're non-pc [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. Corey plays from the tips, or black tees. I thought I caught that Corey would play a different course, but not sure about that. Anyhoo, Ivey scrambles with himself, meaning he gets to hit each shot 2-3 times (not sure how many) and take the best ball. Pavin plays straight up. From the discussion, Hellmuth implied that Ivey was worse than a 15-handicap. For what it's worth, Sheiky and Hellmuth said they'd bet Pavin. Huck said they were out of their minds. Who's your $$ on assuming Ivey is a 15-handicap? How about 10 or 20 handicap? P.S. Most of us have seen footage of Ivey playing golf. He's improved big time from 3 years ago at the American Poker Championship, but still ain't pretty. P.S. Negreanu says he's the best putter he's ever seen (from his forum). [/ QUOTE ] Me likey. If Ivey really is nails at putting, the 2 or 3 shots is a much bigger advantage than it would be for a "normal average" golfer - even if Ivey doesn't hit it far enough/consistently enough to set up good birdie opportunities, a great putter can manufacture many more par saves and birdies seeing that he gets a read on his first putt, and another chance or two to nail it if the first one doesn't go in (and it's his "home" course, so he probably has a pretty good read on all the greens already anyhow). Scoring in golf is mostly about the wedge game/putting anyhow, and if his normal issue is getting it off the tee in play, that's alleviated a bit here. Also, if his ball striking normally creates "high variance holes" where he gets in trouble (O.B., hazard, etc.) it's not such a big deal, since it's a skins match. I would think an 18 hole score would favor Pavin here, b/c even with only one shot, he's probably less likely to have blowup holes. |
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Re: Ivey vs. Corey Pavin golf bet
For what it is worth, Mike Sexton said he would consider playing Tiger Woods with similar conditions granted (maybe the exact same ones)
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Re: Ivey vs. Corey Pavin golf bet
I'm pretty sure Ivey is a 17 or 18 handicap - he was chatting a couple of weeks ago on Full Tilt when we has single tabling and he said 17 or 18. I asked him about the up and down shot from the bunker they showed on PSIII and he said he was lucky. I am pretty sure it is two shots and not 3 because Hellmuth said something along the lines of you have to assume Phil will have 2 bad drives on some holes.
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Re: Ivey vs. Corey Pavin golf bet
How is Sexton at golf?
Obviously Tiger is much better from the Tips than Pavin. |
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Re: Ivey vs. Corey Pavin golf bet
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How is Sexton at golf? Obviously Tiger is much better from the Tips than Pavin. [/ QUOTE ] Tiger is MAX 4 shots better than Pavin on a given course. Probably more like 2.5-3 strokes better |
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Re: Ivey vs. Corey Pavin golf bet
this sounds crazy....i'd go with ivey....and can someone link me to previous golf footage involving ivey?
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Re: Ivey vs. Corey Pavin golf bet
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[ QUOTE ] How is Sexton at golf? Obviously Tiger is much better from the Tips than Pavin. [/ QUOTE ] Tiger is MAX 4 shots better than Pavin on a given course. Probably more like 2.5-3 strokes better [/ QUOTE ] Sorry to say but that is MASSIVE in golf. |
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