Anyone Make More BB/100 on a Harder Site/Limit/Game?

TomBrooks · #1 01-12-2006, 11:20 AM

Excluding the effects of rakeback and bonuses, has anyone found that they are more successful, strickly in terms of BB/100 at the tables, at any particular Site, Limit or Game Variation that is generally considered more difficult than some other?

= [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] For instance, does anyone actually make more BB/100 at some site other than Party than at Party?

= [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Does anyone actually produce a higher BB/100 at a higher limit than a lower one?

= [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Does anyone actually realize a better BB/100 at a particular game that is generally considered tougher than some other one where you don't do as well?

While being able to get such results is counterintuitive and not what one would find on average, I'm wondering if this might occur sometimes because a persons particular style of play matches up better with the style usually found at a particular site, limit or game.

Once again, this question refers only to success at the table, not the effect of taking a hit on BB/100 because a rakeback deal or bonus more than makes up it.

donkeyradish · #2 01-12-2006, 12:41 PM

Yes, but I'm moving up the limits as my bankroll allows &
my game is improving as a result. So my win rate is better because I'm always learning.

I've played in all limits $5/$10 and below and $0.50/$1 was the hardest. I could go back and see if I could beat it now (but it would be a waste of my time)

12AX7 · #3 01-13-2006, 05:54 AM

So why do you feel $0.50/$1 was the hardest? Any suggestions.

I've been working my way through the micros and this limit seems to be a problem for me as well.

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I've played in all limits $5/$10 and below and $0.50/$1 was the hardest. I could go back and see if I could beat it now (but it would be a waste of my time)

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Lawman · #4 01-13-2006, 07:37 AM

Interesting. I'm now rolled for $1/2 but was waiting to confirm winning status at $0.5/1 (3BB/100 but only after about 4k hands mostly party some prima thrown in). Maybe I should just go for it.

TomBrooks · #5 01-13-2006, 10:56 AM

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Interesting. I'm now rolled for $1/2 but was waiting to confirm winning status at $0.5/1 (3BB/100 but only after about 4k hands mostly party some prima thrown in). Maybe I should just go for it.

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Maybe Lawman, but the reason this thread is of interest is specifically because it is about anomolys to what most people generally experience. I would recommend you not use it as an endorsement for moving up in limits, especially since you have only 4k hands. The 1/2 game at Party is substantially different from their .5/1 game which is often a topic of discussion in the Microlimit forum.

Lawman · #6 01-13-2006, 11:50 AM

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The 1/2 game at Party is substantially different from their .5/1 game which is often a topic of discussion in the Microlimit forum.

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I bow to your superior knowledge. In any event I think there is too much pressure on people to move up - I will stay put for a while longer.

A question for you though: My 5k hands are over 2 months, with a lot of review in pokertracker and reading in-between. Some people will multitable that in days. I would not argue that any winrate is meaningful over such a small sample, but is it not likely that I am gaining more useful experience over someone who blasts through the same number of hands in less than a week?

prohornblower · #7 01-13-2006, 05:51 PM

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Interesting. I'm now rolled for $1/2 but was waiting to confirm winning status at $0.5/1 (3BB/100 but only after about 4k hands mostly party some prima thrown in). Maybe I should just go for it.

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He's right, Party 1/2 is noticeably more aggressive preflop than .5/1. Much more raising, 3-betting and capping PF than you see at .5/1

The big difference IMO is that you can't play suited Ax hands EVERY SINGLE TIME like at .5/1. Sometimes at 1/2 the pot has been raised or 3-bet by the time it gets to you and your A4s. Have to fold.

And if it's 5k hands over 2 months I'd say you need to play a lot more poker, sir!

Lawman · #8 01-14-2006, 02:33 PM

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And if it's 5k hands over 2 months I'd say you need to play a lot more poker, sir!

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Would love to...but with a full time job and a wife I'll take what I can get!

donkeyradish · #9 01-16-2006, 08:58 AM

Why do I think $0.50/$1 was the hardest.. after 15K hands I could only break even, yet this should be easy, I thought

I think I basically approached it the wrong way. (I played it based on advice for higher levels)

The sort of problems that brings, for instance, I might raise PF with AQ and end up getting 6 callers. People calling with any pair, any ace, any 2 suited cards... and then post-flop it gets worse because even if I flop top pair top kicker, anyone with any draw easily has pot odds to chase it.

If I were to play 0.50/1 again I'd play more conservatively, and not take certain types of hand too far.

Note:
$0.50/$1 was hard, but should be easy with the right adjustments, in hindsight
$1/$2 I found neither easy nor difficult
$2/$4 the easiest. I don't know why that should be.
$3/$6 only easy if I can find a good table (which is not that easy)
$5/$10 I haven't played many hands at it yet but the skill of players does not seem higher than $3/$6

Duck Rabbit · #10 01-16-2006, 03:57 PM

I've been having the same problem at Party playing at .5/1. Granted I have only 6,000 hands or so played, I am down about 67 BB's.

I just downloaded Poker Tracker Stud (beta) and I am at more than 3 BB/100 playing .5/1 and 1/2 at Stars. I don't know if anyone else plays stud and keeps track of this, but I thought it was pretty good. Also, I started playing PLO and have been absolutely killing that game.

Anyway, I think I'm giving up limit HE at Party for a while. Maybe holdem isn't my best game...