villain fires 3rd bullet, Contemplate calling...

Tomcruise · #1 10-30-2007, 02:22 AM

villian is running 24/20/3.5 over 300 hands, i have pos. and have 3-bet fcked with him a few times, stacking him once when flopping a flush with 5-6 di. vs. his tptk no fd, ...regardless he surprises me with this 3rd bullets.....your thoughts?

Poker Stars, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $181.60
UTG: $657.80
CO: $472.80
Hero (BTN): $763.40
SB: $590.60

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, CO raises to $16, Hero calls $16, SB folds, BB calls $12

Flop: ($50) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, CO bets $32, Hero calls $32, BB folds

Turn: ($114) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO bets $112, Hero calls $112

River: ($338) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO bets $312.80 and is All-In, Hero folds

Results: $338 Pot ($2 Rake)
CO mucked and WON $336 (+$176 NET)

Big_Jim · #2 10-30-2007, 03:11 AM

I'd probably push or fold the turn. Board is fairly drawy, and with only a PSB left, you need to decide if you want to play or not.

If he has KQ and played it this hard, he won't fold it.

If I just called, I'd snap call the river.

Hoopster81 · #3 10-30-2007, 03:12 AM

wow call

Tomcruise · #4 10-30-2007, 03:18 AM

Let me say this, when he bet the turn so hard, like basically 112 into 112 I was pretty excited seeing as I was positive he would slow down with sets, top two...so at that point I did start to believe he was 1. on total air 2. had some sorta flush draw/straight draw.....At this point I did not see him having 3rd barrel capability so I opted to see a safe river.....his monster riv shove, regardless of the board pair def. polarizes his range to aa-kk-boat OR small percent of the time a final last stab with clubs.

At this point too we had only been tussling preflop really, so it made it difficult.

Hoopster81 · #5 10-30-2007, 03:26 AM

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your hand is underrepped, he could be valuebetting worse, and all the draws missed

Tomcruise · #6 10-30-2007, 03:29 AM

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I def agree with my hand being underepped, but there is really only one hand he is value betting--> KQ.....till the river i was feeling good about the situation, esp underepping the hand.

Tomcruise · #7 10-30-2007, 03:26 AM

I'm a former tourney donk (pretty good one actually)....and have only been serious at 2/4 nl for about 2month/45k hands (5ptbb) ....so maybe I'm just a little green with a lot of these types of situations.

AAismyfriend · #8 10-30-2007, 05:23 AM

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wow call

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cakewalk · #9 10-30-2007, 05:27 AM

to those saying whatever how often does vill have to be bluffing missed fd's

2hi4me2cu · #10 10-30-2007, 07:44 AM

If you guys are tussling alot pre / post flop and not really getting to the turn / river, theres a mental element of him wanting to beat you.. So while your just c/c your not representing your hand well enough and he believes hes ahead, he may have had JT suited, and as you never raised he thought he was ahead to knowing he was ahead when the river came..