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Collusion ruling
If I'm short stacked in a tournament, go all-in, get multiple callers, then one of the callers mentions to another caller that they should all just check to knock me out. Would I be able to get a rulling that would nullify their hands in any way?
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Re: Collusion ruling
They would probably get a penalty after the hand, but I don't know that a floor would kill their hand.
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Re: Collusion ruling
No way are they going to kill anybody's hand. You might get a TD to issue a penalty to Mr Loudmouth. |
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Re: Collusion ruling
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If I'm short stacked in a tournament, go all-in, get multiple callers, then one of the callers mentions to another caller that they should all just check to knock me out. Would I be able to get a rulling that would nullify their hands in any way? TIA [/ QUOTE ] I've had this happen several times, and it really pissed me off. I did not bitch to the deal or the TD, but I told the guy to keep his mouth shut during the hand next time - and that it is considered collusion or cheating when you do it. It's different when everyone kinda just knows to do it. I could care less then. |
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Re: Collusion ruling
No, you can't kill a hand for this. What normally happens for each successive infraction is: warning, time penalty, disqualification.
There may be some casinos that assess disqualification before the hand is over which would mean a killed hand. Never seen that happen though. |
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Re: Collusion ruling
Maybe a penalty after...not gonna kill their hands.
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Re: Collusion ruling
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If I'm short stacked in a tournament, go all-in, get multiple callers, then one of the callers mentions to another caller that they should all just check to knock me out. Would I be able to get a rulling that would nullify their hands in any way? TIA [/ QUOTE ] so you like to fight angles with angles? nice. |
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Re: Collusion ruling
I don't consider enforcing the rules to be an angle.
If the tourney has a rule about explicit "check it down" collusion, then I think suggesting it should not only get the cheater's hand killed, but get him removed from the tournament with no refund. |
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Re: Collusion ruling
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I don't consider enforcing the rules to be an angle. [/ QUOTE ] That is typically what most angles consist of. |
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Re: Collusion ruling
Maybe this is just because I used to play magic, but:
Every player in a tournament should know the rules. The casino should make the rules available(online or in print). If someone does something that effects the gamestate then their hand is dead. No one should have to ask for their hand to be declared dead when they check it down either. It should be standard. There are situations where you can be severely [censored] by someone saying "check it down". Situations where almost everyone would probably agree something should be done to repair the situation. Thats why the rule should be enforced all the time and not by giving a warning. You should get a warning beforehand, when you read the rules. Folding out of turn is a minor procedural error. Saying "check it down" is cheating. |
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