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06-09-2006, 02:39 PM
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Take it down now?
Here's something I need to work on in NL. Options:
1 - Donk the flop 2 - Check/call flop, checkraise turn 3 - check/call flop, donk turn 4 - check/raise flop. I was leaning toward just calling the flop and spraying chips into the pot on the turn, but once they both called the pot got so big that I thought it was worth trying to take down right there. Yeah or no? Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) BB ($46.83) Hero ($24.45) MP ($26.95) CO ($104.95) Button ($33) SB ($27.90) Preflop: Hero is UTG with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10. Hero calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $1.1</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB (poster) calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $0.85. Flop: ($3.55) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $3</font>, SB calls $3, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10</font>.... 
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#5
06-09-2006, 02:47 PM
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Re: Take it down now?
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why would you want to take down the pot on the flop? induce big mistakes, rather than helping your opponents play correctly [/ QUOTE ] Well, I'm trying to forget the Ed Miller limit mantra of "if the pot is big, win it now." That $9 was just too tempting...
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#7
06-09-2006, 03:20 PM
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Re: Take it down now?
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you want money hree, not to "take it down". Given reletive position, I like the C/R here [/ QUOTE ] I would say, "Given reletive position, I guess the C/R doesn't totally blow." But I still prefer betting out. A CR has too much FE.
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#8
06-09-2006, 02:59 PM
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Re: Take it down now?
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[ QUOTE ] why would you want to take down the pot on the flop? induce big mistakes, rather than helping your opponents play correctly [/ QUOTE ] Well, I'm trying to forget the Ed Miller limit mantra of "if the pot is big, win it now." That $9 was just too tempting... [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, that's an important one to forget. In limit, the pots don't get much bigger, but in NL, they explode. The first thing you should be thinking when you hit a set is, "OK, how can I get his stack?" Adjust from there if the board is really scary.
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#9
06-09-2006, 03:04 PM
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Re: Take it down now?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] why would you want to take down the pot on the flop? induce big mistakes, rather than helping your opponents play correctly [/ QUOTE ] Well, I'm trying to forget the Ed Miller limit mantra of "if the pot is big, win it now." That $9 was just too tempting... [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, that's an important one to forget. In limit, the pots don't get much bigger, but in NL, they explode. The first thing you should be thinking when you hit a set is, "OK, how can I get his stack?" Adjust from there if the board is really scary. [/ QUOTE ] So I need to give myself permission to slowplay sometimes, right?
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#10
06-09-2006, 03:07 PM
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Re: Take it down now?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] why would you want to take down the pot on the flop? induce big mistakes, rather than helping your opponents play correctly [/ QUOTE ] Well, I'm trying to forget the Ed Miller limit mantra of "if the pot is big, win it now." That $9 was just too tempting... [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, that's an important one to forget. In limit, the pots don't get much bigger, but in NL, they explode. The first thing you should be thinking when you hit a set is, "OK, how can I get his stack?" Adjust from there if the board is really scary. [/ QUOTE ] So I need to give myself permission to slowplay sometimes, right? [/ QUOTE ] Do not slow play this. Make a decent flop bet with the intent to 3-bet huge (if not all-in). Check raising lets some worse hands off the hook. A good player will recognize a check raise here as a monster, while a bet could mean any number of things.
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