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50NL: AK 101 for the millionth time
Villain 26/20/5, 66 hands. I have only been sitting maybe 20 hands, but this is the second time he has 3b me. I folded maybe an AJ or 77 type hand first time. With so few hands and so little history at the table, I think the safest working assumption is that he has a good hand each time.
................................. I wrote a long bunch of questions about this blah blah blah. Bascially it boils down to: wtf am I doing here preflop and on flop? I am stumped by all the different ranges at issue: his 3b range (wide), his range for calling/shoving a preflop 4b (narrow) and his cbetting range (?). (Fwiw, I tanked a long time preflop - a thinking player may well interpret this as my exact hand. Dunno). ................................ Converter at Talking-Poker Button Hero ($49.25) SB ($52.25) BB ($57.15) UTG ($72.95) UTG+1 ($22.40) CO ($39.25) Preflop: Hero is on the Button with A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] UTG calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, SB raises to $7.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $5.25. Flop (16.50) K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] SB bets $15.00, Hero... |
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Re: 50NL: AK 101 for the millionth time
What kind of flop are you hoping for when you call his preflop 3 bet? If you can't play this flop, then I think you need to fold preflop.
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Re: 50NL: AK 101 for the millionth time
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What kind of flop are you hoping for when you call his preflop 3 bet? If you can't play this flop, then I think you need to fold preflop. [/ QUOTE ] Maybe one that is not so suited and connected with less high cards that could make sets? I think this is a terrible flop and would well consider folding. +EV |
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Re: 50NL: AK 101 for the millionth time
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What kind of flop are you hoping for when you call his preflop 3 bet? If you can't play this flop, then I think you need to fold preflop. [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: 50NL: AK 101 for the millionth time
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[ QUOTE ] What kind of flop are you hoping for when you call his preflop 3 bet? If you can't play this flop, then I think you need to shove preflop. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] As played OP, This flop sucks, you are really ususally chopping here at best, I cant see a ton of +EV here. Ill fold this. |
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Re: 50NL: AK 101 for the millionth time
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] What kind of flop are you hoping for when you call his preflop 3 bet? If you can't play this flop, then I think you need to shove preflop. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] As played OP, This flop sucks, you are really ususally chopping here at best, I cant see a ton of +EV here. Ill fold this. [/ QUOTE ] I'd be more likely to shove OOP, but even in position that's a legitimate option. However, aren't the hands that will call your preflop shove exactly the hands that kill you on this flop? As opposed to the wider part of his 3-bet range that still c-bet this flop where you are ahead? |
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Re: 50NL: AK 101 for the millionth time
I've found that shoving AK preflop to 3bets is burning money at 50NL fwiw.
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Re: 50NL: AK 101 for the millionth time
Dis,
As part of shoving AK PF im also doing it fairly often with AA-QQ, to balance the strategy. You do make a point but your equity if dominated pf is >> than equity if dominated post flop. If villain is calling with AA-QQ, AKs himself to the shove (and people do call less, this is just an example), your equity is much greater against that range at this time than on a Kxx board, which you should be stacking off on with AK in a 3 bet pot. |
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Re: 50NL: AK 101 for the millionth time
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What kind of flop are you hoping for when you call his preflop 3 bet? If you can't play this flop, then I think you need to fold preflop. [/ QUOTE ] Thanks. I'll just fold preflop next time. Problem solved. Awesome. /thread |
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Re: 50NL: AK 101 for the millionth time
LOL folding preflop.
flop is tough to raise or call. obviously the more likely he is to be 3 betting light with hands drawy hands the more we are going to want to raise. Given your reads I would edge towards a call here, but if he continues to press it's gonna be a tough spot. prolly pitch to a 2/3+ turn betzoid. |
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