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Old 01-24-2006, 02:37 PM
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Default If We Went Extinct,

If something happened which caused all of humanity to suddenly become unable to reproduce, and humans went extinct, would it be a bad thing?

Im not talking about castrating everyone or any physical harm like that, just some magic spell or sci-fi disease that only makes it so conception is impossible. The only harm that could befall us, is that which would result from not having babies.

If you think it would be good, why?
If you think it would be bad, why?
If you think it would be neutral, why?

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Old 01-24-2006, 02:43 PM
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Default Re: If We Went Extinct,

The social repurcussions that I imagine would occur could negatively affect our lives, so that would be "bad" imho.

It would make sex a lot more fun though [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 01-24-2006, 02:53 PM
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Default Re: If We Went Extinct,

Please clarify: are we only unable to reproduce physically?

Situations:
1. Man puts penis in vagina and impregnates woman.
2. Scientist puts sperm in egg and egg in womb.
3. Scientist puts sperm in egg and egg in artificial womb (ie "growing" children).
4. Cloning.

What assumptions should we make regarding the above?
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Old 01-24-2006, 02:55 PM
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Default Re: If We Went Extinct,

Yes, it would be bad. People mostly have enjoyable lives. Putting an end to that joy would be a bummer.
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Old 01-24-2006, 03:02 PM
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Default Re: If We Went Extinct,

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Yes, it would be bad. People mostly have enjoyable lives. Putting an end to that joy would be a bummer.


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If you voluntarily decide not to have kids you are ending joy in the same sense, no?
So do you think refraining from having kids is a bad thing? (assuming you could give them a great life)
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Old 01-24-2006, 03:52 PM
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Default Re: If We Went Extinct,

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Yes, it would be bad. People mostly have enjoyable lives. Putting an end to that joy would be a bummer.


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If you voluntarily decide not to have kids you are ending joy in the same sense, no?
So do you think refraining from having kids is a bad thing? (assuming you could give them a great life)

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Refraining from having kids if I could give them a great life would be a shame, but it wouldn't be the end of the world.

Your scenario would be (at least for humans).
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Old 02-13-2006, 06:45 PM
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Default Re: If We Went Extinct,

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If you voluntarily decide not to have kids you are ending joy in the same sense, no?

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This comparison is totally invalid. I live in a society that produces children. I do not have to do it myself if I don't want to.

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So do you think refraining from having kids is a bad thing? (assuming you could give them a great life)

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No.
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Old 02-13-2006, 07:32 PM
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If you voluntarily decide not to have kids you are ending joy in the same sense, no?

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This a pretty old post but nontheless I think I remember what I was saying.


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This comparison is totally invalid. I live in a society that produces children. I do not have to do it myself if I don't want to.


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Whether or not society produces children is irrelevant to whether or not you are preventing some happiness when you refrain from having kids whom you could give a great life. You could create one more happy kid yet you do not. I agree there is nothing wrong with this, and even that there would be nothing wrong if man died out. You are missing the point if you think I am saying you ought to have kids. I am making a conditional that if you believe what he said you should believe something else, you saying that "This comparison is totally invalid. I live in a society that produces children. I do not have to do it myself if I don't want to." is totally irrelevant to my point. My point is that from what he was saying it follows that you should always have a kid if you can give it a great life. So if you would like to propose a counterexample please come up with one that is relevant.
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Old 02-14-2006, 02:01 PM
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People mostly have enjoyable lives.

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Seems like a false assumption to me. Some very large percentage of the world lives in poverty.
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Old 02-19-2006, 06:04 PM
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People mostly have enjoyable lives.

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Seems like a false assumption to me. Some very large percentage of the world lives in poverty.

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I live in a country where the majortiy of people live in poverty.

They smile more then rich Americans.
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