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Old 09-20-2007, 03:40 PM
Hicows Hicows is offline
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Default Am I a fish?

Hello everyone. I made a play this afternoon that was very criticized by my opponent. But I really think I made the right play here it is:

Sitngo tournament 10$ buy-in pays the first three places (30$, 45$, 75$). 2 players left. blinds 75 - 150.



I ( player A) am on the button with 4d 7d and I have about 18k chips

PLayer B has 4500 chips

PLayer A raises to 650$
PLayer B calls

The pot is now 1500$

the flop is

4c 8c qd

player B checks
player A bets 750
player B moves all in for about 3000.
The pot is about 5500 chips
player A calls for 2500.
player B turns over KK

The turn is Ad
The river is 7h



As you see I luckily wins, the river giving me 2pair.

Player gently tells me I made some kind of a huge mistake, calling overpair with bottom pair where I was a 4 to 1 underdog, but I disagree.

I was offered good odds 2,25 to 1). If he had an overpair (what he actually had) I was a 4 to 1 dog, but there was a club draw on the board, so he may have made that play with any two clubs, where i had a coin flip. Less probably but still possible with hands like T9 or JT, maybe even J9, or overcards. So I think 2,25 to 1 odds are worth it
One more reason is I had the big stack, so I was still in even if I lost this one. And player B having seen me make this kind of play, I could value bet a lot more easily, and he could get scared to mess with me with nothing.

Overall I think it was a good call.

What do you think?
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Old 09-20-2007, 03:41 PM
Spechel EDD Spechel EDD is offline
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wont read thread but will say yes
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Old 09-20-2007, 03:42 PM
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Default Re: Am I a fish?

ty
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Old 09-20-2007, 03:47 PM
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Default Re: Am I a fish?

lol donkaments
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Old 09-20-2007, 03:49 PM
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tldr and "yes"
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Old 09-20-2007, 03:56 PM
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You played it fine. You can't fold your way to a win!
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Old 09-20-2007, 04:04 PM
Todd Lapham Todd Lapham is offline
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Default Re: Am I a fish?

This is kind of poorly written and hard to follow, also this must be more than a one table SNG with those payouts? From what I gather it's heads up, you raise on the button, get called, call an all in check raise with bottom pair 7 kicker and hit on the river to crack KK? I'd say this was a bad call. Yes he could have had overs + fd (which you'd still be behind), but he didn't.

Couple Questions:

1. You raise to 650, how is pot 1500?
2. What are stack sizes?
3. How has he played draws previously.

Bottom line, you made a bad read and still game out on top. Villian played this perfect, IMO, you're not a fish, just a luckbox. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
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Old 09-20-2007, 05:23 PM
Ihavenoavatar Ihavenoavatar is offline
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Default Re: Am I a fish?

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Villian played this perfect,

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LOL villain played this horribly
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Old 09-20-2007, 03:46 PM
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You are.
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Old 09-20-2007, 03:55 PM
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Default Re: Am I a fish?

If you have to ask, you are.

Even if he had overcards and a flush draw you were behind.
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